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[Press Request] Being The Master of The Star Trek Universe Edit

Hi Sulfur,

I'm a reporter for a site called Atlas Obscura, and I'm researching a story about what it's like to be a Memory Alpha admin. I'd love to talk to you about your contributions to the site, and the challenges of keeping it both accurate and civil, among such a large and vocal fan base. Could we set up a quick interview either via phone or email so that I could talk to you for the story? Please email me at the address below and let me know if we can set something up.

Thanks again for your time, and I hope to hear from you soon.

Eric Grundhauser Staff Writer | Atlas Obscura | -- 19:52, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

I need an image renamedEdit

Hi. So I've uploaded "this image" from the Enterprise opening credits, and in my defense, I wasn't exactly completely reckless: I hadn't found a nasa source image, but I found tree different sites describing the booth as Armstrong's and so I decided to move ahead. However, as it turns out it is in fact a Buzz Aldrin photo the animation was adapted from. I'll take care of changing all info, but I need an admin to rename the pics. Thanks in advance. -- Capricorn (talk) 06:32, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

It's best to simply update the image with the correct information in these cases, and then ask for the rename. And to actually indicate your recommended name. Haha. -- sulfur (talk) 13:30, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

I suppose "Buzz Aldrin's first step on the moon" would be my proposed new name then. I guess I was waiting to update the description because it felt weird to have the image say Armstrong while the description said Aldrin - which I admit on second thought makes little sense. By "and then ask for the rename", do you mean I should have put a template up instead of going to an admin directly? -- Capricorn (talk) 13:57, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

It's best to have the "content" as correct as possible. Image names are "easy" to fix (grand scheme of things) and we have more incorrect than correct (in terms of both content and style) to be honest.
But in short, if there's an issue with the content, fix that, then ask for a rename, whether by template or throwing it at an admin that's around regularly (include the recommended name on it too, and why... you did the latter above). -- sulfur (talk) 14:06, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for renaming. And sorry for somehow making this way more complicated then it could be...again. -- Capricorn (talk) 06:13, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Edit

Thanks for the page moves. :) --Defiant (talk) 20:51, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Alec Peters Edit

Someone with the necessary credentials needs to go into the Alec Peters page and update it regarding the copyright infringement suit against him by CBS over his fanfilm project and Ares Studios. Since you were the last one to edit his page, I thought I would give you a heads up. 20:21, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Find some citations to reputable articles, and those can be added. -- sulfur (talk) 20:42, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
Variety: 09:16, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

English/viewer's language Edit

Hi, sulfur. I really like your edits to the new subtitle page. However, I noticed you changed "English language" into "viewer's language". Can you please explain to me why you did that? I figured, since this is an English language wiki, it would be fine to state that. I'm not as keen on "viewer's language", as subtitles can be in languages native or foreign to each viewer. --Defiant (talk) 00:19, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

It's not the preferred wording I want, but I was trying to generalize it. Perhaps putting something like "a different language"? I'm not sure. Typically, subtitles are in "the viewer's language", so... not sure. Maybe the Wikipedia page has some wording that might be more useful. -- sulfur (talk) 00:47, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it needs generalizing for that sentence; what I was referring to was the cases where extraterrestrial (such as Klingonese, Vulcan, etc.) languages are subtitled. I'm not sure if you're aware of that intent for the sentence in question or not(?) --Defiant (talk) 01:04, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

It is an English language wiki, but we are part of a bigger family so I was trying to generalize a bit... and I know that some of the German guys on here sometimes watch with German subtitles on... so... take that as you will :) -- sulfur (talk) 01:21, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, right. Thanks for explaining. :) --Defiant (talk) 01:22, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

"Title cards"? Edit

Hi. I saw your recent request on Memory Alpha:Requested files and was wondering what you mean by "title cards"(?) --Defiant (talk) 21:23, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

A screenshot with the episode name on it. I looked through TrekCore, and those are the only Enterprise episodes that don't seem to have the title in a screenshot. -- sulfur (talk) 21:49, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, right. Thanks for explaining. --Defiant (talk) 21:52, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Link fixes Edit

Hi, sulfur. Thank you very much for your help with the D. Chang link fixes. Any chance you could similarly help with fixing the links to Species 8472 bio-ship, please? They seem rather a lot! --Defiant (talk) 20:08, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Yup. I'm working through a number of bot-run fixes right now. The current task is cleaning up all links to ST Minutiae, updating all of the old URLs to the new ones as per their new layout from ~2 years ago.
Going to see if I can get through some of the other bot tasks today too. TBD. -- sulfur (talk) 20:13, February 27, 2016 (UTC)
Also, when you move pages, please take the time to go to the other language versions and MB to update their links too. -- sulfur (talk) 20:14, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

I'll try to remember that. Thanks, sulfur. :) --Defiant (talk) 20:16, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Possessive "Dax" Edit

Can you please explain to me why you've been deliberately contradicting what it says on this page, where it clearly states, "Names that end in "s" or an "s"-sound should not have an "apostrophe s" ('s) added in the possessive form. Names that end in "x" or "z" should have an "apostrophe s" unless they are either silent or sound like an "s". For example, "Dax" and "Neelix" should be "Dax's" and "Neelix's" when using the possessive but "Sanchez" should be "Sanchez'" for the possessive." Why have you recently been purposely writing "Dax'", over and over again? --Defiant (talk) 20:47, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Yah, my bad. I've been working in Chicago Style at work lately, and that has all X'S -> X'. Brain freeze moment. :) -- sulfur (talk) 20:49, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Lol. No probs. --Defiant (talk) 20:50, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Disturbance merge Edit

Hi. Any chance you could merge "spatial disturbance" with trans-dimensional disturbance? The spatial disturbance article's just sitting dormant, though a consensus for moving the info to the trans-dimensional disturbance page has been reached. --Defiant (talk) 23:01, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

Post kids abed/etc I'll look at it. -- sulfur (talk) 23:03, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. --Defiant (talk) 23:07, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

Sorted. I think. Might need to be verified to ensure I didn't screw any of the information combining up too badly. -- sulfur (talk) 20:14, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again, sulfur. :) --Defiant (talk) 23:23, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Data driven birth/death lists Edit

Not done by a long shot, but two sets of eyes are better than one, and you know your way around dpl as good as, if not better, than I do. Thoughts and tweaks would be appreciated, since I don't have much time to look at this as I used too. - Archduk3 20:57, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Linking to episodes Edit

Yeah, sorry. I'm used to that for the citations at the end of paragraphs, but I had forgot that you can do that for normal links within in a paragraph as well. Thanks! ProfessorTofty (talk) 16:53, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Are you seeing this as well? Edit

Snap 2016.03.21 14.27.42 001

I'm starting to increasingly see Google scroll bars directly under the TOC within the main texts...Is it just me, in other words is it just a question of settings, or is this imposed? Now I do not mind having these on the side, buy it just looks plain awful within the main body of text...---Sennim (talk) 13:02, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Can you screenshot that for me? I'm not 100% clear as to what you're meaning... -- sulfur (talk) 13:19, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

You ask, we provide :-)--Sennim (talk) 13:32, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Investigating. Going to move this to a forum for the time being. -- sulfur (talk) 13:51, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Great!; await the outcome, thanks...--Sennim (talk) 13:53, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

"Subspace vortex generator"?! Edit

I've noticed you've recently added red links to subspace vortex generator. The creation of that article would be entirely speculative, as the generators used to open subspace vortices are only ever referred to as "generators" and there's no reason whatsoever to suggest that they're only ever used for creating subspace vortices. Sometimes a "generator" is just a generator, rather than a "TECH generator". So, it's the disambiguation page that needs to change, not the link. --Defiant (talk) 10:36, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I've sorted (or at least tried to sort) the problem by instead linking to power generator. --Defiant (talk) 10:48, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Power generator seems much better. Having said that, "generator" is still a very generic term that means nothing without some descriptors. Power works well for that. I'll be honest though, I was almost leaning toward something about the deflector pulse part.
Oh, and we should make sure that the generator is a) linked from the episode page, and b) has the incident/what-have-you mentioned on its own page. -- sulfur (talk) 11:54, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I agree. --Defiant (talk) 12:18, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Aldebaron colony Edit

Hi, sulfur. Please move the Aldebaron colony article to Aldebaron Colony, so that the formatting matches the script sources and the on-screen evidence. --Defiant (talk) 12:43, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure that issue was ever resolved... was it? -- Renegade54 (talk) 17:50, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I didn't really see any good arguments against using double caps, so yeah, I think the issue was resolved. --Defiant (talk) 17:57, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

"Grammar" Edit

You recently edited a contribution I made for "Metamorphosis" to add links and "grammar." There was nothing wrong with the grammar, but you moved the commas outside of the quotation marks. I'm a professional editor. Please know that American standard punctuation usage is to put commas and periods inside the quotation marks; colons and semicolons outside the quotation marks; and the placement of question marks and exclamation points depends on the context. (British usage is different: in addition to single quotation marks, they prefer to put the punctuation outside of the marks). I just want to be clear that my grammar was standard and proper usage. --Mole2 (talk) 07:01, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Please note our style when it comes to episode titles. Your edit to put the commas/etc inside just broke the lot of them. For 90% of things, yes, commas, periods, etc inside the marks. For episode titles, ALWAYS outside. Part of that style limitation comes from technical drawbacks. -- sulfur (talk) 10:12, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

-- I found the style guide. Thank you. I didn't realize the punctuation could screw up the links. Can you please try to not be impatient with me. I'm still learning my way around wiki editing.--Mole2 (talk) 20:52, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

A question re: categorizing Edit

Things that are in unused production material never get any other category, right? I added one other to two unused pages before thinking maybe I was wrong. --LauraCC (talk) 18:42, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

If nothing on the subject was used in a production, then nothing gets added. If there was material used in a different episode (for example), then you can treat that portion of the article as "in universe", so it can be categorized appropriately.
In short, if the article is "real world", then no in universe categorization. -- sulfur (talk) 18:47, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

2K12 Kub File Edit

Thanks for merging the content on that move. I'd have done that myself, but non-admins can't. It had sat for quite awhile with the decision to move and no one acting (I'm sure just forgotten, since it is a very minor article), so I decided to move things along. Hope life is treating you well. It's been quite awhile since we've talked. --OuroborosCobra talk 03:35, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Typically if an article is moved, and a "rename" is put onto the file, I'm actually somewhat vaguely on the ball with those. Ha ha. Sortof. :D -- sulfur (talk) 03:47, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Trekyards Edit

You've just removed the redlink of Trekyards...While you are right in your assessment that it started out as a fan production, I like to point out that it has made a huge jump in professionalism, as a slew of former and current Trek production staffers, like Drexler, Probert, Sternbach, Eaves etc, etc, etc, and often repeatedly, chime in through video and talk at length about their ship designs and builds for official (and yes, some fan trek as well) live-action Trek. As such, Yards currently resembles a live version of Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection. Personally, I think that warrants an entry eventually, but I like to fathom your position on that first...--Sennim (talk) 13:28, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

I'm still leaning toward the fact that it's a "fan production". The Official Starships Collection is a licensed production, but Trekyards (as best I can tell) isn't. Similar to us not having articles on things like the DrexFiles, OrionPress, EavesDropping, Roddenberry's Mission Log podcast, etc... I'm leaning toward the same thing on the Trekyards.
While it may be an excellent source of information and interview a number of the designers, etc... I'm not certain that it's suited for MA. -- sulfur (talk) 13:30, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I can live with that--Sennim (talk) 13:34, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Antenna (biology) Edit

I noticed you deleted the talk page...could this redirect be deleted too? --LauraCC (talk) 14:45, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

It still had incoming links at the time, and I didn't have the time to clean those up. If they're all gone, then I will do so. -- sulfur (talk) 15:34, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

All of those are relating to the deletion. Two are on a user's pages and I can't find them. --LauraCC (talk) 15:37, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

A task for your bot? Edit

See the last comment here. --LauraCC (talk) 20:01, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

Talk page responseEdit

Hey sulfur. What happened on the Court Martial talk page was a total, unintentional blunder. I was editing the page on an iPad, I left the page for a couple minutes to get some further information, I came back, saved my changes, and saw a few minutes later that somehow I took out your comment. Sorry this happened, I've been editing here almost continuously for nine years, I would never take out a comment on a talk page for no reason. Apologies. --Delta2373 (talk) 19:19, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Edit

...for doing the heavy lifting with the unnamed link fixes. I've been pretty swamped in RL, so things that take a couple of hours to do are taking me days to get done online. I was hoping to get through these this weekend, and before too many more were redirected, since lots of the Unnamed Bajorans should be moved to Deep Space 9 residents, and alternate reality inhabitants pages are probably a good thing to get set up before the next film. - Archduk3 19:58, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

...for the fast turnaround with the bot requests. :) - Archduk3 15:05, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Zahra Edit

So give Nu-Trek Zahra her own page?--Marhawkman (talk) 16:49, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Despite the close relationship between Ongoing and the films' creators, it's only been established in non-canon. Until she is called by that name in the credits or a script, no can do. Am I right? --LauraCC (talk) 16:51, May 18, 2016 (UTC)
Correct. -- sulfur (talk) 17:25, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Practice makes perfect Edit

Hey. Can you merge it with metaphor? Sorry to ask you so soon after you merged genie...I should've remembered that when you did.--LauraCC (talk) 16:52, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Re: stem bolts Edit

Moved to Talk:Stem bolt.

Categories with one entryEdit

You recently deleted a few categories (for Coverian/Lyridians) with the reasoning there shouldn't be a cat for 1 entry. There are actually quite a few of those, like Category:Gaspar VII natives. And, then there are those with 1 entry plus 1 image subcat like Category:Ankari. Should those also be deleted? Kennelly (talk) 19:44, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

There's two Ankari images potentially if the Tsunkatse Unnamed Ankari can be confirmed. --LauraCC (talk) 19:48, May 27, 2016 (UTC)
Just looking I found Category:Kaitlen and Category:Lactrans too. --LauraCC (talk) 20:06, May 27, 2016 (UTC)
Yes, if there's only one entry, they should likely be removed. The point of a category is to have MULTIPLE entries so that you can find "like" things easily. -- sulfur (talk) 23:16, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Nancy categoryEdit

Thanks. I was hesitant to put it in Humans as it was someone pretending to be Human, not a real Human. --LauraCC (talk) 15:52, May 31, 2016 (UTC)


...going on at the bottom of the TV and films portal? - Archduk3 02:49, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

tbh? Damned good question. -- sulfur (talk) 03:45, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
I threw this at Wikia and they responded as follows (and fixed the underlying issue):
The "retrieved from" notice generally happens because there are unclosed tags somewhere on a page. In this case, it was a transcluded template.
I had to go a few levels deep on template transclusion but I ultimately found that the issue was on Portal:Main/Panels/Where to watch. There was an unclosed div tag in the ==== Canada ==== section.
It originated from this edit, where the </div> was removed:
So... now we know for the future. -- sulfur (talk) 14:36, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Farmer's daughter Edit

She was a hologram like Aunt Adah, created by the Caretaker, not an illusion. Tom (talk) 17:41, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Em... a hologram is a type of illusion. --Defiant (talk) 20:43, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

So why are the Unnamed illusory people not in the category "Holograms"? And why was the farmer's daughter moved from "Unnamed holograms" to "Unnamed illusory people"? Tom (talk) 20:56, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

It wasn't clear from when she was moved as to why, and I couldn't find any history.
In addition to that, nobody bothered updating any of the links to her. They were all still to the illusory page. That's why I thought that she was in the wrong place. -- sulfur (talk) 23:09, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

IP Edit

I'm not sure if you can help me with this, but this page is me too. User: The latest one is because I deliberately logged out and fixed one of my own posts to find what my IP address was so that these could be attributed to me. What would be involved in adding these to my account? --LauraCC (talk) 21:32, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

You can't tie one to the other. -- sulfur (talk) 22:20, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
Plus, your IP address isn't static. It could change at any time, depending on your service provider. -- Renegade54 (talk) 22:27, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

I use the library computers at my local library. I have no Internet access at home. I realize that anybody could access this site from here and likewise produce posts from this IP, but I have checked these specific posts and I know they are mine. If nothing can be done about it, okay. I just wondered if it could. Thanks for letting me know. --LauraCC (talk) 14:42, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Edit conflicts Edit

Please don't do that. I've started the rename process and will also work on the articles and links and it is really disapponting when I've worked on an article and receive the message "edit conflict" immediatly. Tom (talk) 15:43, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about that -- I was fixing interwiki links (don't forget to do those along the way too on the other MA versions), and spotted the rename tag still on there. -- sulfur (talk) 15:55, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

File requests Edit

I've uploaded HD files of the requested title cards from "Shockwave, Part II", "Minefield", "Marauders", "Canamar", and "First Flight". Right now they're unused. Tom (talk) 21:27, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Awesome. Much appreciated. I've been trying to put together a thing with all of the title cards for episodes, as I believe that it'll (long term) be something nice to present on the episode pages to show precisely what the title was as shown on screen, etc. -- sulfur (talk) 22:26, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

I like this idea. Tom (talk) 22:36, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Is there a rational behind the naming scheme for these files? It would seem to me that the series abbreviation should be in there somewhere, and that "card" might be redundant.
Also, ENT titles aren't in all caps, the font just looks like that. The cap letters are slightly bigger than the others. You can see the "I", "A", "M", and "D" in "In a Mirror, Darkly" are slightly larger, for example. - Archduk3 02:47, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
Naming scheme doesn't include series, because they're going into a series relevant category instead.
And yes, they're not in all caps, but that's going to be the second pass, when I finish actually going through DS9 and VOY. That's what the "notes" field is for. -- sulfur (talk) 10:36, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Source question Edit

Just a question. As I understand, our policy says "What is seen on screen supersedes what is written in production material", correct? For my specific question, Shannon Cochran's character was recently moved and you've deleted the previous spelling. While it was "Tal'Aura" in the first draft script, it was "Tal'aura" in the end credits of the film. Have I missed something? Tom (talk) 17:24, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Crap, that I missed. I thought it was TAL'AURA in the credits. Shoot. May have to zip that one back over then... -- sulfur (talk) 17:33, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-collapsibleTables.js Edit

I need the parts of this Wikipedia gadget that aren't part of the standard mediawiki instalation table class "mw-collapsible" to be added to the js so collapsible tables can be "defaulted" to the collapsed state. That, or someone could explain the bit I'm missing on my sandbox to get it to do that.

If I remeber correctly, all js changes need wikia approval because their security blows, so I figured letting you run this past the cogs should result in a working version of this faster than me poking the js code with a stick and then waiting for approval every time to see if that worked. - Archduk3 06:05, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

...and nevermind. Forgot to add "mw" to everything for no reason when half asleep. :p - Archduk3 23:34, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

File:James T. Kirk, alternate reality.jpg Edit

...has a broken history. The parts that still aren't restored are because there is an error if you try, or they don't need to be. I'm not sure which file/revision is the problem exactly, but we need to find a way to purge it so this isn't a problem the next time this file needs to be merged with something. The only thing I can think of though is to use a different file name for the bits we want to keep, which is undesirable. - Archduk3 03:53, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Enterprise-A Edit

I apologize for any misunderstanding regarding my post of the picture of the Enterprise A from the alternate reality (Enterprise_A.jpg) which you recently deleted due to "piracy."

I did not pirate this image - if found it here: It appeared to me that the image was from a magazine, and the site did list paramount as the source. You are correct that I failed to properly cite the image - this is my real error for that am sorry and admit this was my first edit to Memory Alpha.

I noticed you locked the page for editing. I hope that you will investigate the weblink I just provided, and if you determine it to be a valid image, consider uploading it again. If not, I understand, and apologize again

weremouse Weremouse (talk) 17:16, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

The source of that image is rather grainy, and sadly looks to be taken from a pirated version of the film (ie, a handy-cam or something in the theatre). A magazine image would be sharp, the blacks would be black, and there wouldn't be such high levels of grain visible.
It appears to be an online magazine, and it's the only place that picture can be found online at all. Something like that would be appearing in multiple places if it were a properly released image. -- sulfur (talk) 19:40, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

STO wiki Edit

Some time ago the URL for the wiki changed. But if I change it the icon next to the URL changes... how do I fix that?--Marhawkman (talk) 17:49, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

You mean when you change the URL here on MA? That's likely because we have some CSS tied to it. What was the old URL vs the new URL? -- sulfur (talk) 18:36, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

The new one is the old one redirects to there. Usually.--Marhawkman (talk) 11:08, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

We have two templates to handle STOwiki links: {{STOwiki}} and {{STO}}. I'd recommend using those rather than the outright URL, as if it changes again for some reason, the template can be changed quickly, and it'll carry over everywhere fairly promptly without having to worry about a ton of URL fixes. -- sulfur (talk) 12:25, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Revname Edit

When I looked at the edits you were making to some pages, I noted that you were using the template "Revname". What is this? Is this something I should be using when I add names to the rank pages?--Memphis77 (talk) 16:36, August 22, 2016 (UTC)

Yup. Check out {{revname}} for details. In short, it takes "[[FirstName LastName]]" and converts it to "[[FirstName LastName|LastName, FirstName]]". -- sulfur (talk) 16:38, August 22, 2016 (UTC)

Kzin/Kzinti Edit

Defiant has again changed the reference to the Elysian councilor back to "a Kzinti" instead of "a Kzin" in defiance (pardon the pun) of what you said in the discussion. I do not wish to be seen as engaging in edit warring; do I have your permission to change that specific reference back, as per your comment? Also, I have submitted the relevant portions of dialogue from "The Slaver Weapon" into evidence in that discussion for your review and others'. Thank you for your participation, and I apologize if I have been a nuisance.--Side Rat (talk) 00:36, August 27, 2016 (UTC)

You have, and are continuing to be, Side Rat. My edit was completely in accord with what Sulfur stated. That was "The councilor should be referenced as 'Kzin', with a BG note indicating the source of said name," but that "The species is, by MA definitions, 'Kzinti' by name" and "Kzinti was the only term used in canon. It was never made clear whether it was singular, plural, or omni-usage. So that's the term we use for them. PERIOD." I've therefore changed the page so that the species is called "Kzin" only in bginfo regarding the councilor (and in the apocrypha), with all the in-universe info calling them "Kzinti", exactly as Sulfur concluded it should be. Please stop causing a fuss, Side Rat! --Defiant (talk) 10:17, August 27, 2016 (UTC)

I read the first part you quoted as permitting the reference to the councilor, specifically and exclusively, as a Kzin in the article proper. And that has always been my only use of that term anywhere outside of BG info from the very beginning.--Side Rat (talk) 10:55, August 27, 2016 (UTC)

You read it wrong, then. Goodbye. --Defiant (talk) 12:31, August 27, 2016 (UTC)


I placed a disambiguation on strain to leave the way clear for viral strain. That's WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY--Archer4real (talk) 13:13, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

Then start with a disambig page at "strain", and build up around it.
Also, note that we don't tend to follow wikipedia titling, we follow terms used on screen whenever possible. -- sulfur (talk) 13:42, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

Animal merges Edit

Hi, since you're merging unnamed animals into Unnamed non-humanoids right now, would it maybe be a good idea to merge the unnamed Ba'ku animals as well? They're in exactly the same situation as the Alfa 177 canine or Nibirian animals. -- Capricorn (talk) 15:16, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Hrm... I look at that, and wonder if it would be better to simply merge them into an "Unnamed Ba'ku animals" ones, with a "see also" link from the non-humanoid page(s)... that way the non-humanoid pages don't get too busy, and yet, they're still sorted that way. -- sulfur (talk) 15:20, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

That's an option too. Not the one I'd prefer tbh, but feel free to do what you think is best ;) -- Capricorn (talk) 15:32, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

I, personally, dislike unnamed pages with lots and lots of items, especially if we can break them out into more manageable lists (such as just "Ba'ku creatures"), as long as they're cross-referenced well. That's the important bit. -- sulfur (talk) 15:54, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Image upload autocomplete not workingEdit

For some reason, the autocomplete feature isn't working in the summary box on the "upload an image" page. It used to work for me before. Do you know why this could be? --LauraCC (talk) 19:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

I don't use it myself, so I couldn't give you an answer on that. I'd suggest reporting it with Special:Contact/bug and seeing what Wikia has to say about it. -- sulfur (talk) 18:56, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Done and thank you. --LauraCC (talk) 19:01, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Anchor links Edit

A day or two you posted about anchor links on my talk page. I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say, and posted as much, but I'm guessing by then your attention had moved onto other things. Could you perhaps look into my question there and try to answer them? -- Capricorn (talk) 18:35, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Re, Kelvin Timeline characters.Edit

Are we supposed to make new pages for KT versions of known characters. I thought the standard format was to make an alternate timeline note on the main character page.Mindfire (talk) 18:48, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, so I'm poaching this question - yes, if it's the KT. Same policy as MU characters. Smaller alternate timelines don't apply. --LauraCC (talk) 18:51, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

If we KNOW that they're the same person, then "alternate reality" pages for them. If we're not certain or can't confirm, a BG note and we go from there, especially with the Beyond stuff as we're trying to identify people still. -- sulfur (talk) 18:55, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

In this case we DO know. Simon Pegg (co-scriptwriter) confirmed it.Mindfire (talk) 19:10, September 15, 2016 (UTC)
See Talk:Angela Martine. --LauraCC (talk) 19:10, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Deletion request Edit

Would it be possible for an admin to delete these two subpages of my user page? They're out of date, I don't care about them anymore, but every once in a while they add a few moments extra work to someone changing links, which is unfortunate and why I think it would be better if they didn't exist anymore... -- Capricorn (talk) 17:41, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Done. Tom (talk) 19:42, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks -- Capricorn (talk) 17:47, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

Title card Edit

Do you have a reason why this title card is not part of the episode article? Tom (talk) 19:51, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Years (!) ago a user changed a few episode numbers, probably because of Netflix or some other crap, and that one was never changed back. The episode talk pages thankfully contain the correct episode number for reference, which was missed in the flurry of adding these no doubt. It might be time to consider moving information off the episode pages entirely, since we have their talk pages "automated."- Archduk3 20:11, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Just came across this when I've checked the "unused files" section. Tom (talk) 21:02, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Having these show up there is a good way to find out if someone has changed the episode numbers, which happens a few times a year it seems. - Archduk3 21:28, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

 ? Edit

Why? Tom (talk) 09:39, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

We don't link off to disambiguations from pages that have them, unless there's a redirect through to that page which is obvious, such that <X (disambig text)> does not link to the disambig page at <X>.
In addition to that, we do not link DIRECTLY to disambiguation pages, we always go through <X (disambiguation)>.
Tau (pirate) went against both of those practices. -- sulfur (talk) 11:13, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Tom (talk) 11:18, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Question Edit

Why is it important to "do those dashes properly" on these two pages? On most other pages the "shorter" dashes are no problem. Tom (talk) 16:45, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Properly is putting the ; at the end, and secondly, it's a slow conversion process that we've been working on. Way slower and more painful than I'd like, but it's one that's in process. Bit by bit. -- sulfur (talk) 16:48, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Is there any page about the processes this community is working on? It is quite annoying, especially when a section I am frequently working on, shows changes I never heard of. It would be helpful and contribute to the community to know about such changes. But still leaves the question why this dash has to be "longer" instead of the current version? Tom (talk) 16:56, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

It's stuff that R54 began the process of, mostly to clean up and improve the overall formatting and look of things. The longer dash is a cleaner version, especially when viewed on the web (including mobile) and when printed. That's the main logic behind it. -- sulfur (talk) 17:06, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

I see. And back to the first question: Where are these changes discussed/talked about? Tom (talk) 17:13, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Bot requests had some discussion on it with a "formal" request put in by Defiant a while back. -- sulfur (talk) 17:15, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Good to know, Thanks. Tom (talk) 17:17, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to echo Tom's concern about there not being any page about the processes the community is working on. Tbh, this probably doesn't affect me as much as some people, but it's still disorienting sometimes to see these changes pop up in my watchlist with little idea what is going on and why - and wonder if this affects me, if I should start doing the same and how. It would be nice to have a bit more transparency about that. I don't want to distract or discourage people from the good work they are doing, but maybe an explanatory PSA could be made in the forums or something. You having to post on my and other's talk page about anchor links recently I think is a good example of why that might be usefull -- Capricorn (talk) 22:58, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback guys... I'll look into seeing what can be done for this kind of thing. -- sulfur (talk) 23:03, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

"Bridal Chorus"/"Wedding March" Edit

Much thanks for taking care of these items—I was uncertain of the proper markup and format for inclusion of the files. LauraCC suggested I thank you as she didn't actually handle the additions, and I indeed do. 15:54, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

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