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Log buoy

Looks like someone's messing around with MA. This article is meaningless. zsingaya 22:15, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure I can in this case. The following all link to this:

So it either needs to be rewritten or redirect, perhaps condense the Log buoy, Data recorder and Recorder-marker into one? --Gvsualan 22:25, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


GVSU wouldn't happen to be a reference to Grand Valley State University, would it? That's about a half-hour south of where I live. --Short Circuit 05:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yep, that's where I went to school. --Gvsualan 05:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Hi, if you want to control a bot, just drop me an email or read the pages linked from Memory Alpha:Bots -- Kobi - (Talk) 16:56, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Resizing images

I'm grateful that you've resized the images I've uploaded. I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to editing pictures. Any tips for doing so, to avoid you having to clean up after me? Tough Little Ship 21:25, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • No big deal. The size of the files (space used) you have been uploading have been just fine, its just the size of the (viewable) image that seems a bit oversized. Basically I just do it with the standard MS Paint program that comes with my Win XP. Typically, I reduce the images to 80% their original size, but sometimes down to 60%, all depending on the degree of detail required to keep the images value. --Alan del Beccio 21:31, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I'll (hopefully) remember that in the future. Tough Little Ship 21:32, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

deep space nine

why did you remove the ds9 show info? the current page is a stub with a list. - 03:51, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • If you are referring to the removal of your Wikipedia import, it constituted a copyright violation, which was clearly discussed on the talk page and clearly stated in the summary field when the page was reverted. --Alan del Beccio 08:47, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • how is it a copyvio if wikipedia is free information? you are illogical sir.



Sorry about the violations,

I was not aware that Star and Paramount would have A problem with A fan-based website and information posted on these, though i should have known.

One thing I would like to know. Am I allowed to create an article in my own words based on findings on other websites? Since I don't have the DVD's (nor the money to buy them) in order to watch episodes and thus take notes. Yet, I would still like to contribute to this website.

Kind Regards,


  • As long as it is canon, and you don't copy the work of others, I suppose that wouldn't hurt. We don't need anyone coming after us accusing us of "stealing" their work. --Alan del Beccio 08:51, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Irina Karlovassi

I apologize, thanks for fixing it. I don't know why that happened; I intended to add the pic I uploaded and a note about her being from the 20th century, I don't know why it blanked. - AJHalliwell 00:13, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Production numbers

Quick question: when adding production numbers to the tables of episode articles, should it be posted numerically (i.e. 027, 028, 029 and so on) or the way the producers/studio labels them (i.e. 201, 202, 203 and so on)? --Shran 05:42, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • I'm not really sure, I suppose since it is "production number", it should be given the production numbers "(i.e. 201, 202, 203 and so on)". But I'm not sure if that would get confusing since the production number does not always correspond with the order of airing numbers "(i.e. 027, 028, 029 and so on)", that the articles are otherwise organized by. --Alan del Beccio 05:45, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • Ah, I see. I think if we wanted to be official, we should label the production numbers the way the studios labeled them (201, etc.), but for the sake of simplicity and clarity, I think we should update them to proper numerical form (027, 028, etc.). Thanks! --Shran 21:41, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks For The Welcome

Thanks For The Welcome To The Website... I look forward to making future contributions. Memory Alpha is a wonderful tech resource and I enjoy spending time studying the information on it. You have made wonderful contributions to the site as I can see. Very excellent work if I may say so... Keep up the good work. I'll see you around.


Yeah, I got it about the instant I hit the save page button to revert it. I was like, "I really don't believe his name is Harry John--- wait a minute!!!" :P --Shran 08:07, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC) I just did a boo-boo... now the dirty name is on the recent changes list... sorry! :( --Shran 08:09, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Again, sorry about the whole name on the recent changes page thing. It's early morning and I'm not thinking straight :( --Shran 08:22, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • No prob, I got it straightened out, as I'm sure you've seen. --Alan del Beccio 08:33, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I know, that's why I felt I had to apologize again, since you had to delete the page then re-add it. --Shran 08:37, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)


Hmmm... It said I had new messages, but they were about vandalism and blocking. Then I realized I wasn't even logged in! There have to be other cases of multiple people on the same IP - is it possible to prevent an address from anonymous editing? I'd support that since if I ask the "vandal" to stop you'll get ten times more in response... You know how it is. --Schrei 08:51, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Re: hey...

(Re- hey harry) 
Harry, eh? You're not gonna let me forget that, are you? :þ Anyways, sorry about the humans article, all I did was changed an "a" to "an" (i.e. "an African-American", rather than "a African-American"). I'll go ahead and re-do it. --Shran, a.k.a. Harry 05:20, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)


I couldn't type fast enough and then you already had disconnected. I only have the Concordance as reference. There it is stated under music - Welsh ballad: "Scotty dreamily sings in Welsh when he is supposed to be commanding the ship (The Lorelei Signal). Scotty hums the same tune when under the influence of Mudd's love potion (Mudd's passion)". --Jörg 22:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


Hope you're coming back soon, man. Catch ya later.

Oh, and put up an e-mail address, will ya? :P --From Andoria with Love 00:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

  • You got it, you had it and you emailed me at it. I'm leaving a link to my Wikipedia talk page (since I am on there almost daily) if people still want to get ahold of me.--Alan del Beccio 22:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I realized I had it about a week after I posted the above. I wanted to wait a while to e-mail you, though, in case you had seen this. Didn't wanna come off as a pest, ya know? :-P --From Andoria with Love 12:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


Hey Alan! Cool to see you're back! :-) --Jörg 10:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorta, but not really. Just thought I'd drop in to rattle a few cages. --Alan del Beccio 13:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Comic Covers

And he says this as I finish another batch of 5-6. heh.  :)

There are 22 images left to shift into that subcategory. My next vague plan was to create the Biography cover one and shift the various bio books into that category. I think that there's one cover image that needs to stay where it is (the Klingon Hamlet one), and the rest are split between bios, magazines, and comics. Of course, we don't currently have a magazine subcategory, but that might be worth adding down the road. Go ahead and bot it though. That'll make life a bit easier. -- Sulfur 03:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

And as a further followup, it looks like the magazines are all considered "reference books". So I guess that we can shift those into that relevant category. -- Sulfur 03:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, further update here, the images in Category:Memory Alpha images (covers) are all to go into the Category:Memory Alpha images (comic book covers) section now. There are (by my count right now) 20 images in there right now. -- Sulfur 02:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Categories

I've been (as you've noticed) playing with image category stuff over the last few days, and noticed something odd this morning. If you check Category:Memory Alpha images (insignia), you'll note that it is in the category of Category:Memory Alpha images, but in that super category, that particular subcategory isn't shown. The same holds for starships, planets, and individuals. I've checked all of the category pages, and they all seem to be correct to me to show up. I've also fixed it so that the Bolians and Ferengi categories are properly underneath the individuals category, but just can't figure out how to get things to show up properly in the main images catgory. Any clues as to what might be going on there? -- Sulfur 13:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I can't tell. From what I see it should be there but its not. As I recall we had this difficulty before and it seemed to work itself out. --Alan del Beccio 13:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Found them. Not sure if this link'll work perfectly or not, but the 4 image subcategories that don't show up on the first page of Category:Memory Alpha images show up on the last page [1] instead. Strange that. -- Sulfur 14:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

DelBeccio-bot strange behavior

DelBeccio-bot added an extra [[Category:Memory Alpha images]] to several images this morning.

--Bp 20:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing it didn't recognize the format of the existing Category tag: [[Category: Memory Alpha images]], with a space after the colon. -- Renegade54 21:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Evidently. Either way its not really an issue.--Alan del Beccio 23:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Well you can just send the bot around to fix it again. I was just bringing it to your attention. --Bp 01:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
      • There really isnt anything to fix that would really be necessary. Having duplicate category insertions doesnt affect anything, nor should it be anything anyone has to go out of their way to fix. --Alan del Beccio 01:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm in a hostile mood tonight, could you tell? ;) In any case, his additions are obviously bogus and, even if they weren't, completely unnecessary. It's an obvious case of "Bermaga"-bashing. --From Andoria with Love 06:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Interwiki sorting

I noticed the sorting of interwikis is broken with your bot, see [8], [9] -- does your bot use the most recent (version 1.7, 2006-05-23)? -- Ⓚⓞⓑⓘ 10:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • No, Im using an older version. I was, however, not aware that my bot was doing interwiki. --Alan del Beccio 14:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Battle cruiser images

I uploaded some images of the interior of Kohlar's ship and of the D7 firing to User:Gvsualan/images saved for future projects, I also put a pic of the K't'inga from "Unification II" there, might be useful for the relevant article as well. Let me know if you need anything else. --Jörg 16:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks, I was able to place the Unification cruiser, in Unnamed K't'inga class starships. Any chance you could line up (cap) all the other ships from the "grave yard" so that they could be placed in their respective homes -- I'm attempting to do with unnamed starships like what was done with unnamed Romulans etc. --Alan del Beccio 20:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Hi Alan! I've assembled screenshots of the Qualor Depot scenes from Unification I+II. If you want, I can send them to you via e-mail and you can have a go.--Jörg 20:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
      • I couldn't seem to get the file to download for some reason. But then again, I'm not using my own computer at the moment. If I get a chance Monday I will give it a try again. --Alan del Beccio 14:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
        • I can send it to you again, as a rar-file if you want, or you can come over to IRC and we can find another way ;-)--Jörg 14:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
          • Its more than likely this computer. I'm fairly handicapped with it at the moment, hence why I am doing simple tasks at the moment. --Alan del Beccio 14:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
            • Hey Alan! Did you manage to get the pics? --Jörg 22:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
              • Yessir, I did. I do have one question: there are two Miranda's shown from different angles. Were they the same two ships in both shots, or four total ships, or it can't be determined? --Alan del Beccio 22:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
                • Mhh, tough one, it could be the same two ships. The Enterprise is flying from the previous location of the T'pau to the location of the Tripoli between those shots, but then it tales position somewhere in the depot and plays dead. It would say that because in both shots a Batris-like ship is seen in close proximity of the two Mirandas, there's only two of them. --Jörg 23:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Sorting

The question I have then is... since a lot of these do require looking at the image to figure out what it is, how would the bot sort them? Would you want a list of images that would be, say "TOS novel covers", "insignia", etc? I'd be more than happy to continue going through the images and making notes of their names and categories for something like that. Just let me know what you need. -- Sulfur 14:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I actually do it "manually" with the bot, that is I have to confirm each move, by selecting which subcategory it goes to. For example, I did the "Memory Alpha images (individuals)" to Humans, Romulans, Cardassians, etc. sub-categories all at once by having my screen open to Category:Memory Alpha images (individuals) page, and visually looked at the gallery, while I manipulated the bot from its' DOS-based program. The biggest advantage being that what the bot does doesnt appear on the recent changes screen unless you choose to see all bots. --Alan del Beccio 14:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Interesting (the way that it works that is). So, if I do give you a list of images to sort (so to speak), you'd have to walk through them all manually and do that? The reason I ask, is because I already have something of a list that I was working from, and I could just simply pass that along. After all, the Category:Memory Alpha images section does need a pretty hefty cleanup. There are lots of individuals, covers (well, very few of them now), insignia (ditto), and starships (amongst others) still in there that should be sorted into the subcategories for better use and all. -- Sulfur 14:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've got a gallery of images that need sorting into categories. I've created a gallery of them at "User:Sulfur/Images to Sort". Probably not complete by any stretch, but should get a bunch more things sorted properly, and make the root category a bit easier to deal with as the individuals slowly get sorted properly too. If you could (when you've got time) hit these up with your bot so that it doesn't fill up the recent changes as I was doing before, that'd be fab. -- Sulfur 16:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello Gvsualan

Thank you for welcoming me to MA. I would like to say that All my life I wished for someone somewhere to put all things startrek on the net. MA did that. I would like to say thank you to everyone that had anything to do with its creation. Where else can you go after you just watched startrek to research what you just saw. How many times have I looked up something just cause for years i thought I was right but then I read only to prove I was wrong. I can now call myself a real trekie or trecker if you will. If you get the chance could you pop by my userpage and let me know what you think... It's Fan fiction but I like it. Thankx

Captain Wall::: 11:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Starfleet enlisted personnel

Thanks for categorizing them, I was going to ask you, but I didn't know if you were up to it or not. Unfortunately, it seems you categorized (at this moment) 37 under Category:Category:Starfleet enlisted personnel, but it should be easy to fix. Although you probably realized it by now, I just thought I'd give you the heads up in case.--Tim Thomason 21:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

image copyrights

You know, i got kind of an oddresponse last time i talked to User:Aholland a few weeks ago. he, in all his infinite wisdom, now believes that images from publications can be included in our database, based on his comic strip article. He had previously overridden my decision to include pages of the ST:TM that were featured onscreen, as he didnt feel the pages (and likely other behind-the-scenes sourced) pictures were "canon" enough. just to let you know, if we need to regroup after youve called the non-screenshot pictures into qustion at IFD -- Captain M.K.B. 23:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm in agreement with you in regards of the ST:TM images, seeing that I took part in uploading (if not at one point scanning) those pictures myself. So far only the one scan has been found and posted (last I checked) for IFD. Other than that, I noticed Cid mention something of the sorts about using the 'Ships of the Line' calendar image of the 'Enterprise-J @ warp' because it came from "a product that people are supposed to pay money for" and that that is not "fair use".[10] Following that line of reasoning, I posted those other images scanned from similar sources for IFD due to similar (or potential) fair use issues. With that said, I would rather not see them go because many of those images are better than any screenshot we will ever see (i.e. Norway and Sabre classes). But since the hand has been dealt I figured we might as well put all the cards (questionable image sources) on the table and get this behind us. --Alan del Beccio 11:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Adding reviews to episode pages

I thought that it may be nice to write episode reviews, a little bit like on .

I would be happy to write reviews for all the episodes I own on DVD (TNG S4).

Would adding such reviews violate any existing rules or laws here?

Evangelis 21:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

  • In a way, yes. We are an encyclopedia, not a chat or forum website. Like wikipedia our articles should remain neutral. That is why we dont include nitpicks in our episode summaries. --Alan del Beccio 04:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

bot work

Would you be able to have your bot add template:realworld to everone in the performers, writers, and production categories? -- Jaz talk 23:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Jaz and I were working on that. Eventually the bot Morn (I don't know who that belongs to) did it. Was done a few days ago ;-) --OuroborosCobra 03:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
that's Kobi's bot. --Alan del Beccio 03:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:deleting images

Hmmm... I thought that had already been taken care of, but you're right, I should have checked on it myself before deleting. I don't think this is the first time I've made this mistake... anyways, I don't the "what links here" link in the toolbox to the left works the same way for images, which list the linked pages on the bottom, so how can I find whether a deleted image page links to an article? --From Andoria with Love 04:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I think you're speaking in tongues. --Alan del Beccio 04:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
With images... the list of pages which use particular image... is located at the bottom of an image's page. "What links here" doesn't work with images, at least not with me. So how can I find out what articles still have a deleted image on them? --From Andoria with Love 04:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Um, click on the dead image link and it should say if anything is still linked to it. If it only gives you the option of editing the image page remove the &action=edit from the address bar and that should work. Then again, it is completely possible that is the only page that was not unlinked. --Alan del Beccio 04:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
"What links here" only works if you have a link to the image, rather than an inclusion -- go to File:tng_chief.png to see... User talk:Gvsualan will be in the "what links here" but Starfleet ranks will be in the "used by" column on the page part.. -- Captain M.K.B. 04:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
... or maybe not. is this a disabled feature? -- Captain M.K.B. 04:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it only works on article pages showing images link to it. Otherwise the pages linked to images appear at the bottom of the image page under the


The following pages link to this file:


Calico M960 firing


This is just what I was looking for! -- Captain M.K.B. 22:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe Stupid question?

Thanks for the welcome message.

I have a question. I cannot start or edit a page when i use the "edit this page" link at the top of each page. Every time i click this link, my browser asks me to save a file called index.php. the only way i can edit is if the article has an edit link attached to a subheading or if the "+" button is on top of the page like this one. As a result, i can't even make a user page. Can you help? --Captain MAJ 01:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

MA has been a bit buggy tonight, Captain MAJ's problem might be related. Bp and I have been having problems sporadically throughout the night. --OuroborosCobra 01:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I have been having this problem on two different computers w/ different IPs for about two weeks. I can't post it in Ten forward for the same reasons listed above, as I would have to start a new thread. --Captain MAJ 11:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
well, starting a new thread is what one would normally do anyway...either way I'm not sure I understand your problem, since I have had no problem natigating this site on either Mozilla or IE. --Alan del Beccio 11:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
When I try to start a new thread or begin an article or do anything using the "edit this page" button at the top of the screen, the computer wants to open or save a file called index.php. If i do, nothing happens. It's very strange. --Captain MAJ 12:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
This may solve your problem - go to your Preferences (top right when signed in), select the Editing tab, then make sure that 'Use external editor by default' and 'Use external diff by default' are unchecked, ie, the box for those options is empty. People who have had the same thing on Wikipedia have been directed to that as a solution. -- Michael Warren | Talk 12:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
That works now. Thank's to all for the help, and look for my User page soon! --Captain MAJ 12:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thumb and Px size

I thought that we didn't need PX sizes when an image was marked with thumb? That's why I removed them from the Unnamed Ferengi page. Is there a reason you put 'em back in? Did something change? -- Sulfur 02:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Lists, unlike everyday articles, of unnamed characters have always been at 150px ever since we created the first (to my knowledge) unnamed species list-page (unnamed Romulans-- prior to the page's later disambiguation) last year-- actually 180px was used on many pages and those too eventually creeped down to 150px as well. The reason for this, aesthetically speaking, was to condense the size of the page (or individual entry) so that the images don't overtake the text, as there are, in many cases, very little supplimental text for the unnamed characters. Typically large image and small text equals large gaps between entries, which simply "looks" bad. --Alan del Beccio 02:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Works for me. I figured that I'd check to ensure that I hadn't missed something along the way before making any further thumb|px "fixes". -- Sulfur 03:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Uploading pre-existing images

No problem. BTW, this is a cool site! {{SUBST:User:Adamwankenobi/sig}} 03:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Possible issue on Shelby

There may be a possible issue forming with an anon on the Shelby article. He seems to be trying to enforce a wikipedia policy on us, even though we are not wikipedia. I have reverted twice, but I am not going to do anything else. It is possible I am wrong (although I am pretty sure I am not), and even if I am right, I don't want to be party to an edit war. As it is, I may already have done too much. I apologize if I have. --OuroborosCobra 05:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure it belongs there. As an encyclopedia, we really shouldn't be drawing a conclusion like the sentence in question draws. We stated Ron Moore's side of the issue, we stated Peter David's side of the issue and we threw the canon-ball in the court as well, thats all that it needs. In the end its up to the reader to decide. --Alan del Beccio 05:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I feel that my last edits were a good compromise, but I'm always open to refinements. I still think its important to a). keep the two Shelbys separate and b). explain both Ron Moore's original intention and Ron Moore's later intention. There isn't a lot of need to use the article to explain the New Frontier side of this, except to note that it is what originated Ron Moore's later opinion, at the behest of Paramount Pictures. It is a significant example of off-screen sources influencing the decisions of the production.
    • Since I'm being accused personally (another user is sending various messages about "Captainmike is wrong" rather than "add my viewpoint into the article differently". He needs to work on submitting info rather than arguing it. I'm bowing out to allow others to work on it, this is called for by the protection policy. I shouldn't be involved anymore now thats its gone personal and i stopped the situation. I am doing this to prove that i can follow policy. -- Captain M.K.B. 05:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


Sorry about the spamming of creating things there. I created a couple of the dates, and then realized that it shoved October dates to the top 10-15 items on the wanted list. Doh. So, I figured better to create the entire bunch and clear them all off of the wanted list than otherwise. Regardless, we now have an entire month of the calendar dates done. -- Sulfur 03:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Learn to read.

Perhaps, if you're going to accuse someone of failing to start a discussion, you should check the relevant talk page before you embarrass yourself. I raised the issue in September 2005, and for 8 months no one offered response or reply. You might also notice that, after I restored my edit which had been reverted without explanation by another user, a fellow admin has since joined the discussion to agree with me and back up my edit.

Get your facts straight next time before you jump on an anonymous user and assume he's wrong simply because he hasn't bothered to register for an account. I'm restoring my edit once again, and I'll repeat this for you since you seem to be impaired: I've explained my edit. If you object to my reasons, then perhaps you should practice what you've preached and do exactly what I've done, exactly what you accused me of not doing — participate in a civil discussion on the talk page and attempt an intelligent argument.

  • I would thank you to change your tone and address me in a civil manner or I might take this as a personal attack. Regardless, you never signed your original comment, nor any of your other comments, its awefully hard to trace who says what and when with all this randomness...--Alan del Beccio 04:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Remind me again, why do we keep adding the welcome message to that anon's talk page? :P --From Andoria with Love 05:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Because we want to encourage users to register and not encourage users to blank their talk pages, the latter of which (I believe) we have a policy on. --Alan del Beccio 05:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Wil Wheaton article

Someone might want to delete some of the edit history from the Wil Wheaton article. There is some stuff there that should be removed. I might be making to big a deal out of this, but, it just doesn't seem to me like something we want in that edit history. --OuroborosCobra talk 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your help!!

Thanks for helping me with me "Multi-spatial shield" article!! :D I am new to this sort of forum, and doing the post for the first time was really bad, I know. I have since added some pictures to the article. let me know what you think.

Thanks again,



Thanks for deleting "Talk:Multi-spatial shield", I forgot to put it up for immediate deletion along with "multi-spatial shield". --OuroborosCobra talk 22:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Unnamed ships

Hello, I noticed you working on the lists of unnamed starships and there is a lot of overlap when dealing with ships in fleets, mostly during the DS9 war. I wonder if it might be better to have pages for the fleets and links on the unknown ship pages back to the pages dealing with the particular fleets. Any thoughts? Jaf 03:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Jaf

  • Wow, I was actually hoping for an "'at a boy" when I saw the talk topic, but I was wrong. Anyway, it is always inevitable that there will be some overlap when dealing with multiple things appearing at once, however, the point of organizing the ships by class is to identify as many ships of a class (as mentioned in the "appearances" of said starship class page) in their own topic page. Redirecting users here, there and everywhere to see all of the appearances of all unnamed Excelsior class starships seems much easier when they are all together with their sister (class) ships, verses a mix-match with a little bit over here and a little bit over there. --Alan del Beccio 04:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Overlap is not inevitable on a wiki, just lazy. There is no reason that the information shouldn't be compiled in one place. Jaf 04:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Jaf
      • No, that is lazy. Lumping everything together robs those ships of their individuality. They should be (and are currently) treated as if they had their own names, and some of which, actually have details that fortify their individuality. Otherwise, what you suggest would be like removing all information from Star Trek Nemesis in the articles for the Intrepid, Valiant, Galaxy, Aires, Nova, Hood, and Archer and placing it solely in the Star Fleet Battle Group Omega. That robs those ships of their individality just as much as it does from the unnamed starships that have been individualized. --Alan del Beccio 04:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Hmmm, how about the other way, create the fleet pages and direct the user back to the ships involved? Jaf 12:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Jaf


Is it okay if I restore the other previous revisions for some of the pages you deleted? Up until and excluding the vandalism, of course. --From Andoria with Love 19:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Actually most all of those that you just restored were edits made all within one minute of each other, so if there were 5 minor edits in 5 minutes i would restore just the last edit or only the edits that actually said something in the edit summary, otherwise it just takes up more space in the database to have 10 more revisions restored that only minute edits at best added as consequence of someone not using the "show preview"-- that is, if one remembers that each individual edit to a 10kb page duplicates that 10kb page each save, even if it is just one word change in the edit. --Alan del Beccio 19:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh, ok. I guess I should have gone with my first instinct and just waited for your answer (I thought you would have said "go ahead" :P). Shoulda known you had a good reason for it. I'll stop now, though. I'll remember that in the future. Sorry about the restores. --From Andoria with Love 19:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I normally wouldn't add to an archived discussion, but I just saw that this discussion is being linked to, and it is just so wrong on so many levels. First, if a deleted edit can be restored in the first place, it obviously already has to be saved somewhere for restoration - meaning that restoring it won't alter the amount of database space used. Second, and I have seen this idea floating around several times already, I'm relatively sure that a minor edit to a 10KB page won't mean a duplication of all 10KB when saving. Third, and most important - even a minor edit is still an edit that needs to be attributed to the contributor who did that edit, so randomly deleting individual edits (non-vandalistic, no copyright infringement) from a page history should be a big "NO" for everyone. -- Cid Highwind 09:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek vs. Star Wars comment

Yo, Alan. Just a question regarding your comment on the Vfd regarding the Star Trek versus Star Wars page: I did initially remove the content of the article and moved the discussion at Vfd to Possible copyright infringements, but according to the user who posted it, material at Wookieepedia is under the GDFL copyright license. Since I have absolutely no clue about all the things which copyrights restrict, Does this mean it's still a copyvio here on MA? --From Andoria with Love 04:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Tret's Species

Re: i'm perfectly capable of fixing my own links after moving pages if I'm allowed to finish one job at a time

Yeah, but the problem initially arose as I was working through those and fixing the links in the first place to at least make them correct. When I started, you'd last done anything with those pages about 30 minutes before, so when I saw the broken links, I started to change them, and as I was doing so, that was when you starting moving the pages and changing them around. So, we ended up working at cross purposes for a few minutes there. -- Sulfur 02:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

As I said, when doing what I was doing, you can really only do one thing at a time, esp. when you are going back and getting quotes, screencaps, etc..and hence why it looks as if I am inactive at times. This stuff happens when you multi-task an entire episode and when you make contributions that go above and beyond the cosmetics. Also, my original point being: if I break links in a delete or page move I will correct them, it's all part of the job-- otherwise it become rather difficult to work when you get edit conflicts while doing site/page maintenance. --Alan del Beccio 02:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Life span

Nice work on the Life span article! -- Renegade54 20:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Parodies page separation

Heya, Alan. Would you care to do the honors and split up the Star Trek parodies article as you suggested on the Vfd? I'm not 100% sure how to do it myself, and after last night, I dare not attempt it. But I do think splitting it up really is the best way to handle the increasing length of that article as well as the Star Wreck page. --From Andoria with Love 00:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

(Continuation from above) Actually, would it just be okay if the article was split up simply using copy and paste? If so, I can certainly do that, but if several merges are required, then I'll leave to you. --From Andoria with Love 22:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I think cut and paste is fine in this case as long as the page remains a "hub" and as long as we are not deleting any history...have done similar stuff in disambiguating pages in the past, including Unnamed Romulans, etc. --Alan del Beccio 23:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Just for the record, i have already left one addition split off from the hub, via a disambiguative title -- "Star Trek parodies (Star Wreck)" seemed large enough to carry its own. -- Captain M.K.B. 23:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Re@Alan – Alrighty, I'll get on that then. Thanks! Re@Mike: Can't that be moved to Star Trek parodies (literature)? (reply on my talk page please) --From Andoria with Love 23:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Solar System Poster

Hi Alan! The Solar System Poster arrived today. If you are interested in what is depicted, join IRC or contact me per e-mail (the address is all over ex-astris-scientia). Just wanted to let you know ;-) --Jörg 19:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

IRC and I'll explain! ;-) --Jörg 23:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image citations, etc

That seems highly ungrateful! I went out of my way to provide this site with screencaps. It's the last time I'll be doing that, that's for sure! What's to stop you from adding the citations yourself if you see it as such a high priority - pure laziness? I'm no longer interested in Trek, anyway, and only continue to contribute here to help out without watching any of the old, boring series again. There are far more members of this site who are obviously interested in Trek and have more time in their days. Sorry, but I do neither. --Defiant 00:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I know that laziness is hardly true of you. However, frankly, I couldn't think of any other reason why you didn't just add the image citation, etc. to the image yourself instead of making the extra step to contact me about it before the information was added to the image page, adding an additional step in proceedings and wasting time by doing that. Honestly, much of my above comment seems pretty silly - it's not the purpose of this site to provide users with gratitude, nor do I expect that (most of the time). I guess I was just tired, my apologies. Had I not been sleepy, I would not have been making such irrational statements and certainly would not have expected gratitude. I agree that you do go out of your way to provide valuable contributions to MA, keep up the good work. :) --Defiant 12:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Gas giant

Hey, Alan. Great job with the gas giant article. I was wondering when someone with the capabilities would step up and fix that up. That's one less pna to worry about, woo-hoo! Again, well done. :) --From Andoria with Love 23:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Scrolling lists

What is the purpose of the scrolling lists for appearances ? In my opion they are the perfect way to 'fuck-up' an article. (excuse the language) Personnally, I dislike to scroll within a page in which I am already scrolling, it makes reading an article very confusing. I compare this to like being forced to read a page fullscreen because someone thought that's what I would liked to do. An article reads much better without sub-frames in which you need to scroll to read its contents. Just my opinion. -- Q 13:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

First off, profanity of that sort is out of place on my talk page, and as well this site as a whole. With that said, simply put, scrolling lists help immensely in condensing space. It is equally unappealing to be forced to look at a ackwardly listed collection of episode names, especially when they take up a large chunk of the article. The alternative is to create a separate page, as was once done with the "list of Klingon appearances", after which, it was decided that having the scrolling list kept the list within the main article, and condensed the total space that was otherwise occupied by the list in question. --Alan del Beccio

Well, I personally like a balanced page (text, pictures, whatever) then one with scrolling lists in them. In my opinion those lists disrupt a page text flow and distracts the reader. Then again, if the communitiy has decided to use them who am I to contradict them. -- Q 17:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

We're moving away from the scrolling lists and towards the collapsible tree lists. See TNG recurring characters for an example, or Lorine Mendell. -- Renegade54 17:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Aha, that can be discussed elsewere ( not on Gvsualan's talk page because then he would probeably put his phaser on kill setting:) ) when necessary -- Q 17:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Background Information vs Behind the Scenes

So, with your latest edit on "Arena", are you intending to change all of the "Background Information" sections to "Behind the Scenes" now, or was that something of an accidental change? The reason I ask is because that episode kinda sorta stands out with different section titles now, and secondly, because changing something like that should be dealt with in a consensus form, no? -- Sulfur 11:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and hello

Wow, that was quick! I edited off and on at Wikipedia for at least six months before anyone noticed me. Thanks for the informational links; I'll look them over to see where (or if) they differ much from Wikipedia's. I probably won't be a regular here, though; I just happened to spot an error while looking something up, and I hate to edit anonymously... -- CWesling 00:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to thank you for welcoming me aboard and also for the valuable tips. I'm slowly learning! Best wishes, Ol' Horta Face 00:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me but I already have an account. Trueblue9999 21:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

FL 940

As others have noted, "Boy, you're quick." My self-imposed PNA was/is explained in the Talk page. Thanks for the help on my modest addition. As regards this message, though, I would just as lief as sent it personal. Ever heard of Gmail? Go Tigers ('07) and good luck on your midterms. --GNDN 06:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)(Idiot MI Lawboy)

  • That is about the most gibberish in one swallow I have ever consumed. --Alan del Beccio 06:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks, sport. --GNDN 07:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I'll add this, though. Your comment about my "giberish" might have been heartfelt or sarcastic. Either way, it was unwarranted. I have a certain amount of knowlege of TOS that I am happy to share with this endeavor, subject to the Wiki constraints. What I have contributed has either been supported by on-screen evidence or submitted with self-admitted reservations. To receive a response such as "That is about the most gibberish in one swallow I have ever consumed," is both insulting (to me), and counterproductive (to MA). Perhaps, Mr. Del Becchio, you should consider linking to an off-site email account to prevent gibberish such as mine making it to the MA screens. As for MA, you might moderate your tone so as to avoid the numerous vandals (such as the recent AIDS situation). A great many people have been following Star Trek (and science fiction), for a some time. I, for one, appreciate your contributions. Others, though, might be so put-off or angered by your editorial that untoward comments are added to MA. We all could benefit from a curtailing of the less-than-necessary exhibition of your obvious rhteorical skills. --GNDN 07:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC) (That's right, I signed it).
Seriously, did you read what you first wrote me? What you said makes very little sense to me: "I would just as lief as sent it personal." Additionally, "Ever heard of Gmail? Go Tigers ('07) and good luck on your midterms." Where is this coming from? Finally, I really don't feel it is necessary to make a "public issue" (aka forum post) regarding a misunderstanding and or overreaction. Seems we could be a little more adult than that around here, considering vandalism has about zero to do with these topics and your forum post. --Alan del Beccio 08:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Look at my submission at Ten Forward. If you would take the time to set up an e-mail address, this whole contretemps could have been avoided. As for the obvious Michigan references, maybe an adult could have surmised that these statements were made by one Michiganian to another whom made a point of his residency and educational staus on his user page. Once again, this matter would not be public if you had an e-mail account. Your edits were welcomed and warranted, sir; my comments on same were made necessary by your own choices. After al, you called me out. --GNDN 08:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Here are some simple thoughts for next time. A) Request my email if you wish to talk to me personally, or request to talk on IRC, not start a pubic forum about how I am responsible for vandalism or how you misread my comments; B) I got the Tigers reference, but the Gmail thing and midterms is about totally random, because I really don't see a clear statement from you regarding your residency that would have made me go "ah!", nor am I even in college anymore; C) I still don't know what "I would just as lief as sent it personal" means. See my point? Gibberish. --Alan del Beccio 08:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't clear on the meaning, either, so I looked it up: lief -- Renegade54 20:01, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Image uploads

Hi Alan. I hadn't really made that clear in my earlier description of the situation, so just for your info - contributors from other language versions can't control which version they want to upload an image to. As I understand it, one of the upload pages just works as expected while the other one uploads any image to "en", without giving the contributor any way to choose. So, asking those contributors to take care of where they upload might be a little misleading to them... -- Cid Highwind 00:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

So once they upload it, can they tell where it went? --Alan del Beccio 00:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess they are redirected to the english image description page in that case - but I'll get back to you if I know for sure. If that's the case, though, it might still not help someone who doesn't speak a word of english. By the way, this seems to be one of the top priority things to fix at the moment, so I hope we won't have this problem much longer. -- Cid Highwind 10:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

In which case can we just immediately delete images that have quite clearly come across the language barrier? --Alan del Beccio 23:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I've got no problem with that, personally, unless one of those images happens to be so good that we really want to keep it - unlikely, though. ;) Most of the images would just end up as orphans, anyway. -- Cid Highwind 23:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahem, the proble is the "miniupload" image upload page that one gets by clicking the "Insert Image" button on the edit page near the toolbar. It is hard coded to always POST to "/wiki/Special:MiniUpload". Unlike the normal image upload page, when the miniuplad is finished it simply closes the popup and adds the image wiki code to the page the user is editing. When the user clicks Save or Preview, it looks like the image upload failed to work on other language versions, the image is there but it is red linked. There is no obvious sign to an MA/de user, who is ignorant of the problem, that the image has been uploaded to MA/en. I think the users might believe that this is how it is supposed to work, that the link only produces the code and they still have to click the red link, which takes them to a normal upload page, to upload the image. Or something. --Bp 03:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia message

Hi, Alan. I have received a message on my talk page at Wikipedia from someone using the name "Alan Del Beccio". However, for one, you already have an accoutn there as gvsualan, and two, the "d" in your name is lower-case, so I am assuming the person who sent me this message is an imposter. However, I need you to verify that it wasn't you before he is banned. --From Andoria with Love 08:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

  • No, that definitely wasn't me. I have the same user name across the board. --Alan del Beccio 16:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty then, sannse took care of it. :) --From Andoria with Love 17:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


There aren't many of us who'd admit to III Search for Spock being a favorite. I actually sat through it a second time when I went to see it in release. LLaP, Kojiro Vance | Talk 18:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Linking to anon user contributions

Just thought I would pass on a trick I have. I noticed you creating links to an anon's user contributions by using an external link. You can actually do it with an internal one, if you would like. Rather than:

[ User:123.456.789.012]

You can use:


Just makes things shorter, and keeps it an internal link. I don't know that either of those really matter, but at least now you know that there is another way to do it (assuming you did not already know, if you did and are using an external for another reason, feel free to disregard). --OuroborosCobra talk 15:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk page indentation

May I ask which way of indentation you are trying to change discussions to? :) For example, you made this edit earlier, after which my comments were using at least three different levels of indentation (0, 1, 4) instead of the one (1) before. It's suggested that every participant in a discussion uses one and the same level of indentation throughout, and that new comments are always added to the end. This makes it easy to follow discussions both chronologically (vertical) and by participant (horizontal). I think we were using this style for the last few years... -- Cid Highwind 03:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

bot stuff

I'm not sure what happened when you left IRC, but here are the remaining steps:

  • create a file "" with this content:
mylang = 'en'
family = 'memoryalpha'
usernames['memoryalpha']['en'] = 'DelBeccio-bot'
  • run ""

Then everything should be operational. Anyway, I'm leaving for a while. Later. --Bp 21:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm getting a "wrong password?" error for some reason. --Alan del Beccio 22:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Category you suggested

Category talk:Media companies seems to have support. -- Cid Highwind 13:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm tryin'

I'm really trying to get the hang of doing the proper wiki-ing of images. I got it mostly right, right? --Babaganoosh 06:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Tube Grubs

Thanks for that redirect...I had made "tube grub" before noticing "tube grubS," don't ask me how I whiffed on that one...I was figuring out the code for "#REDIRECT ENTRY" right when you did it...but, thanks. – Lotus000 07:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I moved the page history, which automatically turned your page into a redirect. Otherwise, for future reference, the general rule of thumb for article titles is in the singular, rather than plural. There are very few exceptions to this, but most notably, "list of" articles are in plural, example Federation starships is a "list of Federation starships." --Alan del Beccio 08:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. I'm (very obviously) new to MA and am still attempting to learn all the subtleties. Would you care to let me have your e-mail so I can ask you a few questions that you could answer when you have time, so as not to clog up your talk page? Thanks... my e-mail is wjcherry[at]
Simple: this username at hotmail. --Alan del Beccio 21:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Well it's obvious from the CoCo NoNo debacle that I have yet to master the I'm going to hang myself...thanks again, though! – Lotus000 04:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Your bot

I've noticed your bot has appended several notices to the bottom of pages (i.e. [11]) - are these intentional and supposed to be left there? Mafeu 21:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the Special:Export feature. Wikia is currently looking into that, but apparently there is a bug in the new sitenotice feature. --Alan del Beccio 21:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
User:DYKBot has over 1300 contributions like that today...I have far less. --Alan del Beccio 21:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I see. So if I see any I'm OK to remove them? Mafeu 22:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be better to leave it and let the bot fix it's own mistakes. --Bp 22:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Law / Crime and punishment

Ok, I think I have a pretty good starting point for the list you suggested at User:Renegade54/Crime and punishment. Take a look when you get a chance, if you would, and make any changes or notes or whatever that you feel appropriate. I think everything on that page could/should fall under a category of Law somewhere, and most (if not all) of the stuff at the top under a subcat of Crime and punishment. I'm not exactly settled on some of the stuff in the middle as far as where it should fall, either under Crime and punishment, directly under Law, or under one or more other subcategories under Law. Let me know what you think. Thanks! -- Renegade54 23:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Pic policy

See here. 01:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

That is not a policy, it is a statement based on someone's observation, that is in no way established in fact. --Alan del Beccio 01:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Meh. Still, wouldn't it make sense to standardise things. As it stands, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura and Sulu all have the arrangement of a photo from this last appearance at the top of the sidebar and then an early one at the bottom; Scotty and Chekov were the only different ones. 01:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Thinking about it, I'd probably be inclined to standardise the other way - have each begin wit a picture from TOS, as it's the most iconic image for each. 01:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly, on the latter point. Why would we want to see a dried up old shriveled McCoy from a 30 sec guest shot as the primary image of the McCoy page versus the ~80 other appearances he made in his iconic "prime"? --`Alan del Beccio 01:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'm going to give that a go and see what happens. 02:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC) I'm going to add the older pictures of Chekov and Scotty at the bottom of their sidebars, to match the rest now. Madred 02:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


Why is it iritating that every time someone makes an article that has been in the wanted list for weeks, that Sulfur or you jump in there and make a total rewrite?? I mean really you can just tell somone if what they have written is bad or poorly done, and then they might correct it, and if they don't, THEN jump in and rewrite! But no, you like to go in and thrash the work of others just so you can claim the work as "yours"! I suppose its fair since the idea of any Wiki is to add information to the internet as a source for facts, but really how are people like me ever going to be able to improve if some people are always "fixing" the articles we start? I just needed to say that.42bens 18:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why you find that irritating, but this is a wiki. You can do the same to others' work if you find it poorly written or not formatted correctly. Gvsualan and Sulfur are just rewriting pages for their amusement and the enjoyment of others, the same reason you are writing them. They understand that the work doesn't belong to them, you, or anyone other than the site itself. I doubt they would re-write an article unless it was necessary, but your contributions (the fact that you created the article) are still recorded in the history and they can't "claim" that.--Tim Thomason 18:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you Tim. And I'm just guessing here, but I believe this discussion roots to my rewrite of Operation Lovely Angel. The reason for that rewrite was because it was not written in the proper point of view. Additionally, please take note of the notice located about an inch below your edit box when you are editing: "Please note that all contributions to Memory Alpha are considered to be released under Memory Alpha's Creative Commons License. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." --Alan del Beccio 18:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

FINE! I overreacted and I was wrong but still just because I suck at writing and deserve to have the things I start to be "edited mercilessly and redistributed at will". Do what you will and rewrite it for the good of the trekkers. But really that rewrite did make me feel a little down because what it said to me was, "Man, you really can't write for a wiki, can you!?" I can see that I will never accually have a shot at writing anything more than low class stubs so I give up tring to get you to see it from my view. Maybe Sulfer is the more annoying one. Oh and Tim, I know that the fact that I started an article is always there, but after it is rewriten to a point where it no longer looks like what it started as, I can no longer feel it is my article. Of course I know the article does not belong to me or anyone else, but I would just like to have some article at some time be mostly my work, and not have it be a stub. 42bens 03:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not you, so don't let that get you down. I've written my share of articles that have been massively rewritten, and likewise, I have massively rewritten subpar articles. Perfection is not required. I highly suggest reading that link. --Alan del Beccio 03:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand and see that the article is correct. I just wish I could figure out how to do all this the right way. 42bens 04:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Most people don't pick up on it right away. It takes time. I've been on MA for 2 1/2 years and have over 45,000 contributions, you've been here barely 2 months and have made only 68 contributions. Perhaps this or this might help. --Alan del Beccio 04:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)



oh man that is so much better. Deevolution 05:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought it matched the TWoK image you uploaded earlier. In fact, I had that exact image lined up to upload myself, but you beat me to it. --Alan del Beccio 05:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

i am now attempting to clean up this type 2 phaser article...unless you had that in mind yourself... Deevolution 05:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

No, not at all. I'm about to head off for the night. --Alan del Beccio 05:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion on article

In our recent argument about the year 1996, I feel you didn't answer one of my complaints. You said that I didn't participate in discussions on my additions. I replied that I am not informed when these discussions take place. Could we have something in place where I could be notified so that I can answer any questions?--Airtram3 03:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I personally check pages that I have worked on recently in the recent changes to note any differences and so forth, they are easy to pick out (if you don't clear you cache) because, on my browser, they appear the color that represents visited links. Otherwise, I feel you didn't respond to the facts regarding the Star Trek Chronology, which I feel you are rather mislead about, and use inaccurately in your arguments and explainations. --Alan del Beccio 22:32, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

USS Copernicus

I have read your comments on this ship. Before jumping the boat and saying categorically the ship in Earth Spacedock is the Copernicus, don't you think it would have been prudent to see if the model had changed its registry by requesting Jorg to obtain scans of the model in its next appearance in (TNG: "The Naked Now")? Or have you forgotten the time when I made a similiar claim for the Oberth-class starship in "The Drumhead" to be categorically the USS Cochrane and how you nailed my ass to the wall stating unless there was actual proof (name in dialogue, a visible registry, etc.) then I had no right to make this declaration? Tread softly, my dear boy, for I have a long memory.--Airtram3 00:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


Yeah, I know. I was, in fact, working on restoring it when you did at the same time! Sorry about that! --leandar 13:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


Are you going to bot change the others as well? ----Willie 18:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Energize (CCG) should also be changed. I don't know how to move a page (if I even can). Wondering if you could help. Thanks! ----Willie 18:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Should be a tab at the top of the screen that says "move". --Alan del Beccio 18:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw it after I asked. I should probably look at the whole page before asking questions. Also, I will fix all the red links on my Roster page and on the CCG page. Thanks again. ----Willie 19:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

recent ban

Just to let you know what you might be in for, Memory Beta recently had to take a community vote to perma-ban a user (named VortaExpert) who insisted on frequent blankings, adding his own fan fiction or inappropriate sexual content to Kilana, Yelgrun, Leck, Weyoun and creating a bogus nomination (and disrupting my ascension vote) in Nominations for Adminship.

Sound familiar? -- Captain MKB 13:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh yah, we knew. Way ahead of you ;) -- Sulfur 14:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

File:Shran, 2153.jpg

do you think you can unblock this so it can be replaced with a screen shot? Deevolution 23:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. it's beena while, so we'll see how it goes :) -- Sulfur 23:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thanks! Deevolution 01:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome message. I'm sure it will help me a lot. Live Long and Prosper!--Windu223 21:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Response from Noman

Your comments are noted and appreciated. I will attempt to follow them. As to you question concerning Transwarp Humans: I most certainly know that Janeway and Paris were transwarp humans. I stated so in the article I wrote. ("The first two humans to experience this transformation were Tom Paris and Kathryn Janeway"). Are you aware that the transwarp humans listed as characters in the episode as uncredited, Cindy Sorenson as transwarp human #1 and Susan Rossitto as transwarp human #2 are different individuals. They were the offspring of Paris and Janeway and therefore transwarp humans. That is why I did the article. Maybe I was not clear enough, which was my fault. Again thank you for your critique. I have copied your points and will use them as further reference.

Now I have a question for you, since I assume your are an administrator. I have actually made contributions to thousands of articles under various ip #s before I logged on as Noman. I can't understand why there are so many fill in the blanks that no one completes, that is why I have started to fill in the blanks, along with expanding hundreds of character articles that were very skimpy. There are many articles that I have written, that need pictures, but no one has added them. I have written in a few discussion pages about various characters and received no opinions or answers. Could I possibly give you this list of pictures that are needed and also the discussions pages. Again, very nice to converse with you. Noman 14:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures can be requested on the page Memory Alpha:Requested pictures. -- Renegade54 18:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Worf being XO

That whole bit about his promotion and being made XO is non-canon. It is from the novel Resistance, and is already in the apocrypha section of the article. --OuroborosCobra talk 22:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


I understand, link to unnamed bolians. OK,ok. See rudeness returns. Oh, by the way, Aquarius, linked it to Unnamed Deep Space 9 personnel. Caretaker is a Voyager episode, so shouldn't it be linked to unnamed Bolians, or was she seen when Voyager was at Deep Space 9. User: 18:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Double persons

Hi! sorry, I saw it too late. You've changed the section for the Unnamed Eart Starfleet personnel and removed Ator Tamras. Then we should delete many more... – Tom 16:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please. Unless there is a reasonable doubt, it would make most sense to keep characters together by actor. --Alan 16:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Transwarp Gate article in Armada

Newbie here. Not even sure if I'm doing this right, but would appreciate schooling if I'm not. Just checking to see if it was Gvsualan who merged my Transwarp Gate article with Star Trek: Armada and to thank him. Nice to know my first contribution found a good place to live.

Also, the image file I uploaded for use with the article needs help, as in citing the source and proper copyright law for fair use. Can anyone help me figure out how to do that? Many thanks. --Arthor 20:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, non-canon people, places and objects, from novels or video games, or rpgs are placed in article that subject originates from...making it its own self-contained reference, and not it's one articles. As for proper citation, I'm not sure off the top of my head, probably best to check how the other images from the game are cited and mimic that. --Alan 22:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


Thank you very much for your help on that Jeri Ryan image copyright issue and other matters. I greatly appreciate it. – Orr6000 19:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Maintenance Request

Hello, there. Would you mind cleaning up some images I uploaded. Geez, I hope Deevolution is not mad at me, but I updated the image he posted of Kate Mulgrew. I don't know what happened, but it did not go well. The file is Kate Mulgrew.jpg (note: there is another file, KateMulgrew.jpg, please don't do anything on that one.) Can you revert that file, Kate_Mulgrew.jpg back to the original B/W image that Deevolution uploaded. Most kind.– Orr6000 23:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Quick wiki training tip. You can actually revert images yourself by clicking on the "rev" link located next to the image you wish to go back to. To double check you image is the right one, you can click on the date/time link and should take you to a new screen showing that image. Additionally, if the main image does not change, you may wish to press the Ctrl and F5 keys together to refresh the image. If, for some reason, that does not work, it may have to do with the server, and you might have to wait a few hours for the image to correct itself.

Thanks for the tip. Now consider this, please. I uploaded an updated image of Michael_Dorn.jpg. The page I got it from has NO COPYRIGHT NOTICE RESTRICTING IMAGE USE. So, I figure it is okay to use it. Secondly, before I remembered the CTRL+F5 command, I uploaded the file as MichaelDorn. jpg, as a new upload. VERY SORRY! Now that I know how to force an image refresh once done, I shall not do that again. It clutters the server with uneccessary stuff. So...*Sheepish look*...mind cleaning it off, as well as my earlier upgrade attempts. Thanks again.– Orr6000 16:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


Congratulations on reaching 50,000 edits! A milestone, indeed. :)

Enjoy your shore leave, and bring me back one of those bare-chested 18-year-olds, will ya? ;) --From Andoria with Love 04:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about, ya freak? Been sneaking into mommy meds again, eh? What did I tell you about it? Ask first. --Alan 22:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

I may not be the best speller and sometimes my dyslexia gets the best of me but I thank you for fixing my spelling errors in the episode I recently edited. Maybe in time, I will get better. Editor3000 01:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

You know, I think to help with my spelling issue, I will do my summary in a program with spell correction like, Microsoft Office: Word, then copy and paste! Editor3000 02:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Unproduced Episodes

I enjoy reading your "Unproduced Episodes" article, doubly so since you often use my work as a reference. I've posted a lot of new material gleaned from early scripts and story outlines recently, including a pretty detailed beat-per-beat synopsis of Gene Roddenberry's "Trekless" pilot script for "Assignment: Earth." as well as an early draft of the Art Wallace/Roddenberry aired version of "A:E" Feel free to make use of it as you see fit. I could add it all, but since you consider it your "pet project," I'll stand clear. There's new stuff at the "Origins" section on the same site as well.Sir Rhosis 23:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

No, no, by far, do with it what you want or can-- as you can see I haven't worked on it in a while. The TNG episodes will likely be my "primary focus," and with you being the primary-secondary source for the TOS information, it would almost make more sense for you to do it, and believe me, I'd be more than happy if you worked on it. --Alan 23:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Cool. Sir Rhosis 23:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Image used in MA/de

Talking about your edit [12] removing the note that this image is used in the MA/de:

I don't know whether you even noticed, but since the last update every image uploaded in the MA/en can be used in the MA/de (and the other versions, too) without uploading it there, directly from your database. I left this note only to show, that this happened, but I guess I should have talked about it befor (honestly, I added the note to start bring up the topic). In the moment we are still discussing how to use this new feature (here, if this helps), and Cid has even told us, that that won't change the behavior of the MA/en's users. I understand that you are not very interested in that, and I guess notes like this won't be necessary, but I think I should inform at least one of the admins here (you are the chosen one!). We created a category with the used images in (here) if you wat to know, which images are used.

So don't change the way you work and don't expect more links to other MA versions, I won't add more, simply feel informed and please ignore my horrible English--Bravomike 21:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

My talk page

Uh, is there a reason why I can't do an interwiki redirect on my talk page, because everybody keeps reverting it. I understand it doesn't work, but I prefer it that way. {{SUBST:User:Supergeeky1/signature}} 22:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well for one, you weren't logged it, and that could be perceived as vandalism. Secondly, any discussions about MA should be held on MA, not on another wiki's talk page. --Alan 23:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah, my apologies. I didn't realize I wasn't logged in, I've been gone for a long time, so it didn't even hit me. {{SUBST:User:Supergeeky1/signature}} 03:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

What to do??

I am confused. Before uploading images for my episode reviews, I check the episode images page to ensure that I do not upload anything that is already there. I did not see any Seven-of-Nine_Torrot image. How was I supposed to know that it was uploaded already? Is a contributor expected to peruse every single image on the site to make sure he does not upload one that is already present?– Orr6000 23:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Just check the image category page by episode, it requires a very small degree of "preusing". Just click on any image from the episode in question, generally there is one on the episode page, click on the image-episode category link at the bottom of the page, and it would more than likely show you every image linked to the episode in question. --Alan 00:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hey Alan, thanks for the welcome mat! I'm looking forward to editing; fortunately I've notice a lot of similarities to Wikipedia, so I don't think it'll be too terrible hard for me to get into the swing of things. Thanks again, --Milton Stanley 03:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Hawkins in MA/de

Hi, why did you move "Hawkins" tho "Hawkins (Begriffsklärung)" and made it a redirect to "Hawkins (Botschafter)". In my eyes this is not very usefull, because both Hawkins are not very known, but especially the ambassedor ist not more known than the MACO.--Bravomike 17:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Because MACO Hawkins has a first initial, therefore is F. Hawkins, and doesn't need the (Corporal) qualifier, which opens up Hawkins to be replaced with the only remaining qualified name "Hawkins (Ambassador)", but since I am not an admin over there, I could not make the necessary changes properly. See: Hawkins, "Hawkins (disambiguation)", F. Hawkins. --Alan 17:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, but still the two Hawkins are both very minor characters, and the ambassador is not the first I think of when linking Hawkins. So in my opinion Hawkins should stay a disambiguation-page. I will start a disussion on this in the MA/de to find a solution there, but IMO "Hawkins" should stay a disambiguation-page, so I will revert this changes, but thanks for giving the F.-initial for the MACO, it helps (but doesn't change the situation)--Bravomike 18:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Forget my last comment, your plan got already finished by Kobi, so I will let it be.--Bravomike 18:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to say, what you suggested is not the proper way to use disambiguation pages. "Hawkins (Ambassador)" is the only "natural" title that uses the name Hawkins, both Willie Hawkins and F. Hawkins have their own distinguishing qualifiers "F" and "Willie" that sets them apart from "plain, no-given-name/initial" Hawkins, but just in case, as I did on the en/Hawkins, I linked to Hawkins (disambiguation). Otherwise, Corporal minor? He made several appearances, and had lines, that easily trumps the Ambassador, who was just a namedrop. --Alan 18:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

You are perfectly right, corporal hawkins is a much more important character than the ambassador, but that is the reason for me wanting a disambiguation-page under "Hawkins", because most links on this page would not aim on the ambassador, but I surrender ;) The way it is now ("Hawkins" now is the article about the ambassador, from it you find the disambituation-page, it is like here in the MA/en) is OK. (In the end I think it is better like this, too)--Bravomike 18:32, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

There may be a similar change with Ryan (Corporal) and the Ryan page as well, I think I just found his first initial too. --Alan 18:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

would be great, the more we know the better it is. Let us know when you can confirm it--Bravomike 18:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the "R.", I did the other changes when I saw it--Bravomike 19:32, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

This is Ensign Q

Yeah, I'm already registered. This is Ensign Q. 16:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC) (Ensign Q)

So sign in, it makes associating comments with users a little easier for the rest of us. --Alan 17:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, and please don't delete the Nebula Melbourne article!! Ensign q 17:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Dark Frontier...OUCH!!! *laughs*

You mean I spent two days doing all that work for nothing?! OUCH!!!! *Snickers and sighs heavily* Well... thanks for telling me. Feel free to revert the Dark Frontier article to what it was before. I do not think you will want to merge the two together...that would be way too long. OUCH! DAMMIT, MAN! *laughs*– Orr6000 21:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Just a tip: we've pretty much had the episode page titles accurately established for the past 3 years. --Alan 21:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I have been watching Voyager on Spike. They split it in two : Opening Credits, First Part, End Credits, Opening Credits, Second Part, End Credits. SO I thought it was a two-part episode. I could put what I was calling Part II together with Part I on the page, but it would be quite long: nearly 70 K. Should I?– Orr6000 23:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I have been watching Voyager on Spike. They split it in two : Opening Credits, First Part, End Credits, Opening Credits, Second Part, End Credits. SO I thought it was a two-part episode. I could put what I was calling Part II together with Part I on the page, but it would be quite long: nearly 70 K. Should I?– Orr6000 23:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Together they are technically one episode, as was "Way of the Warrior", and several pilots and finales. That is how we treat them here. --Alan 23:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. But should I put them together to form one summary in the page, given how long it would be? Is there a limit on page length?– Orr6000 23:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Since it was technically one episode, yes they would go together. Also bare in mind that there is probably some information missing from your two-part version of the summary and portions were most likely cut for syndication from the original feature length version. – Alan 23:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey Alan

Hooray! And thanks for the welcome message. And cheers. And hooray! Jenningshall 05:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thundercats wiki

I know this isn't a Trek related thing, though I'm a huge fan, but I found your Thundercats wiki and I've actually started one of my own with some other members of the fandom. Thunderpedia Our goal is to be the most accurate and complete site possible. We have several connections to people who used to work on the show and comics including writers, artists and the man behind the voice of Lion-O, Larry Kenny. I noticed that yours hasn't been worked on in a while. Are you not going to finish it or are you just taking care of things here first? If you like we can join forces and work on Thunderpedia together. Either way I would like to use some of the images you have up. Please feel free to email me at

Thanks for your consideration - Omicron from Thunderpedia and


I was sorting out the error as you were making your edits. I know how it is with new users, so I take no offense. I appreciate the work that has gone into this site and hope that there are some things that still need to be done.

I'll take a look at the project pages and see what seems to be the main work items. -Mak 20:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

SSN info, link?

Hi Alan. You changed the birthdate of William Ware Theiss, stating in the edit summary that "he was born in 1931, based on his SSN records". Is this info available somewhere on the web, so that we can have a citation for that change? ...just asking because all other sources still have the 1930 date. -- Cid Highwind 11:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Philosophy category, and stuff

The more I wait for whatever process of approval a category needs here, I'm afraid the more it teaches me to dislike democracy, or perhaps bureaucracy, for its seemingly INFINITE slowness. My original idea was simply to do it the Wikipedia way: being bold, and just making all the necessary links and recategorizations myself, if required. After your comment about how it hadn't been approved, I submitted to that process...and have realized that I might actually be waiting six or more months for a nod to come, which is precisely the opposite of what wikis were supposed to be for, when they were first invented. What solution to this [self-deletes certain expletives from passing into conversation] situation would you, as an administrator, suggest? --a slightly agitated, and knowing agitation is valuable to accomplishing things, ChrisK 04:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Since Alan appears to be AWOL (I never gave him permission to leave :-P), I will answer in his stead. I, myself, have become somewhat annoyed at the slowness of the category suggestions page, as has Alan, I believe (I don't mean to speak for you, Alan, but I recall you getting aggravated at how long it takes for some things to get done around here). Personally, I think we either need to get rid of the cat suggestions page altogether and instead keeping track of all the new ones created (and deleting unnecessary ones or bringing them up for deletion) or make a change to the cat suggestion policy stating that categories can be created within 7 days if there are no opposing votes. I think the latter would be a better choice and a good compromise be those who want to keep the suggestion page and those who want things done a bit quicker. ;) --From Andoria with Love 20:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Awaiting your return

Alan!!! Come baaaaaaaaaack!!! :( --From Andoria with Love 20:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

File:Braga Nemesis Premier 2002.jpg

Greetings. I don't know if you remember this image. Can you remember the source?–- Eyes Only 22:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Alan was not the one who uploaded the original image; that user was Mike Nobody, but the original upload was deleted. However, neither Mike Nobody or GVSUAlan is around anymore to answer your question, I'm afraid – both have apparently moved on. --From Andoria with Love 20:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


WP:POINT. You should know better, being an administrator. --OuroborosCobra talk 08:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

  1. Funny, you think you are on some other wiki. This is Memory Alpha, so I guess that link is kind of moot, eh.
  2. The edit I made was perfectly canon to the best of my anal capacities. Cite to me where it was established as being on Earth, or for that matter, a former nation on said planet.
  3. Not everything I do or say here is done as an administrator, so you can just stop throwing that at me every time I do something around that you don't like, especially when what I did was perfectly canon. The only thing I did here that I, as an administrator, did that I should have known better about not doing was not properly archiving the removed text. For that, kind sir, I apologize. --Alan del Beccio 19:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I think you're both very good at putting fuel on the fire. I see childish behaviour on both sides of this "debate" (using this term very losely) and frankly, I'm sick of it. All this time would better be spent constructively instead of citing policies at each other, finding yet another precedence, trying to get even more people involved in your private war and, yes, breaking WP:POINT, which might be policy on Wikipedia only, but still should be fucking common sense here as well. So, please, get your act together and stop stepping on each others toes. -- Cid Highwind 10:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


Welcome back. :) --From Andoria with Love 06:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


Oy, a lotta edit conflicts, we need to coordinate our efforts, lol! --From Andoria with Love 04:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


About the DS9 cast images I uploaded...sorry-i shouldn't have uploaded them-it won't happen again.JemHadar359

Contributions to look at

Can you take a look at Special:Contributions/ Many of the articles seem to be very very poor duplicates of existing materials, and other seem to be articles for unnamed species which we only have a single example member of, which I seem to recall were deemed not acceptable by the community when Homesun was adding tons of them (I actually think this may be Homesun not logged in). I would look over more of them myself, but I don't have the time right now to pull out all of the resources I would need to confirm stuff, especially given the complete lack of citations in both the new articles and in the lists they link from. I'm reading documents for a RL job, or I would take a bigger stab tackling these. Thanks in advance. --OuroborosCobra talk 05:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


I meant no offense, nor did I mean to make you look bad. If that is how it came out, I am truly sorry.– Watching... listening... 21:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Image categories

Just a thought, but what about Category:Memory Alpha images (temporary)? Clean it out every so often... -- Sulfur 05:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Well it would seem from the discussion that they are permanently temporary for discussions. At least from what I get from Cid: "Forum:New Wikia-wide skin - without the images, the rest of the discussion wouldn't really make much sense anymore" Otherwise I was think Category:Memory Alpha images (discussions). --Alan del Beccio 05:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
The thing is... the nightmare that is "Wikia's new skin" apparently still isn't over. Last time I checked, there still were problems with it, and while the idea to force all wikis to that as a default doesn't seem to be pursued actively at the moment, who knows what the future might bring.
In this (or a similar) case, I just think it's not too necessary or sensible to delete images that are part of a potentially ongoing discussion - sensible, because we might lose context of the discussion, and necessary, because it won't save us one bit of disk space, now that images can be undeleted. :) -- Cid Highwind 09:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

FA/AOTW process suggestion

Hi Alan. I found my old suggestion quicker than I thought... see here. Some concerns might be a little outdated by now, but I still think the procedure in general would work. -- Cid Highwind 09:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Edit reversion

Just because YOU take something out does not mean it DESERVES to be out, Gvsualan. And giving a reason on a talk page does also not make your edits reversion proofCapt Christopher Donovan 03:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I explained why I removed it, which is in accordance to our guidelines. If there are objections to the removal of content, then they are discussed by both or all sides, not simply readded by the original contributor without discussion, "because I'm right and you're wrong", especially when it comes to speculation without any form of legitimate citation. --Alan del Beccio 16:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Formal Protest

Sir, I respect you on this site but what you did seems very immature. I was not edit warring, I was listening to every comment that you made and trying to improve the article. I explained my reasons, listened to yours, and as a result we had a good background section added in and were working it to improve it. For you to then revert to your preferred version, lock the article, ann then post some kind of a note that I was edit warring and "adding and readding" items to that article without discussing is extremely uncalled for and also untrue. If you would like to take out the fleet captain reference until I can find a hard core source from the script notes then so be it. But dont abuse your admin powers and act this way when we are all just trying to work together. -FleetCaptain 05:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Dont take this the wrong way, but I'm letting you know that I formally protested your actions to other administrators. I dont think you should have reverted and protected an article that you were directly involved in editing and you had no reason to add a user talk page note on a mainspace article which implies that the article was protected because I was constantly editing it. We can still work together and I look forward to doing so. I just dont think you had cause to lock articles when you weren't getting your way. -FleetCaptain 05:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The only way I was not getting was not on the article, but on the talk page: NO DISCUSSION. I locked it so finally get some attention directed to the talk page, where the action really was, and you, sir, were all but ignoring. I removed something, moved it to the talk page and left a reason why it was removed. Common courtesy at that point was to discuss the removal, bring up the pros and cons, and ultimately, some sort of proof supporting what was removed, followed by the re-addition of said removed comment. But apparently, sir, that was too much to ask, and instead, a dozen edits later, the link is still on the page, with ZERO justification whatsoever. I hope you are happy. --Alan del Beccio 19:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Looking for input regarding video-wikis on Memory Alpha

Hi, As you may have heard, in the next few days there will be a new collaborative video feature on Memory Alpha. The feature is based on technology created by Kaltura, where I work. We’re really excited to have our technology on Memory Alpha and are hoping that it can be a great tool for the Memory Alpha community. I am contacting you and a few other administrators hoping that you can tell me where you think collaborative videos might fit in within Memory Alpha. We have a few people that are great with rich-media, and that are active in the community and would like to get a few videos rolling as soon as the feature goes live. For example – what pages do you think could benefit from a collaborative video that any user can add, edit and remix? Are there 5-10 top pages/topics that you think could be cool to add videos to? Any specific ideas of the kind of videos the community would like? Maybe a tribute to a certain character, or possibly a video that talks about why people joined Memory Alpha, etc. Any input you could provide would be excellent, we’re hoping that the Memory Alpha community gets familiar with the collaborative video feature and enjoys it. Thank you! Lishkee 14:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Come back


"Do not let the puny humans drive you from Memory Alpha! Return to vanquish them and adorn their skin to the hull of your ship!!"

Believe it or not, you won in the debate. The Fleet Captain mention in the article is out. My plan is to now develop a new navigation template to link all Starfleet ranks and titles. -FC 23:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Good to see you back here. Welcome back :) – Tom 13:51, 17 February 2008 (EST)

TMP Aliens - Thanks

I'd just like to personally thank you for your work on the TMP species articles. Those articles were misleading before - mixing non-canon info in, having only non-canon images etc - and I wouldn't have had a clue where to start to fix them. Now canon and non-canon info is nicely separated and we have screen shot proof of their existence, and textual information on when they can be seen.

I personally really appreciate it when you work on these huge projects, and the wiki benefits enormously.– Cleanse talk 06:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Established continuity remark (no spoilers)

(no spoilers) Hey, Alan. Regarding the remark you made when editing the movie news panel – "well doesnt that just screw with about half of established continuity..." – actually, it does not screw with it. I can't explain any further without going into spoiler territory, so I will just say that you have no reason to worry about established Trek continuity. :) --From Andoria with Love 21:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

user pages

Hey Alan, tired or just too fast? I always though user talk pages are for the welcome note? Should the user page now be deleted? ;) – Tom 04:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosst Amojan Picture

Thanks for adding that source on the image, I wasn't 100% sure where to put it. – Bertaut talk 18:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, just add it if it were an episode citation. --Alan 18:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Delete and block

Hey Alan. Can you delete File:Sulfurlikesthis.jpg and File:Sulfurlovesthis.jpg? Might as well ban User:Firestone as well :P --OuroborosCobra talk 18:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


Congrats on reaching 60,000 edits. Here's to the next 60,000! :-D --From Andoria with Love 04:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I dont think I could. --Alan 05:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


How was it "messing up" the redirect page? Wouldn't people be redirected from it anyway?

I was just trying to add some clarification there with respect to the different spellings of the ship.

Would it have been okay to add the information I was putting up top *below* the redirect Link at the top of that Page instead?

I'm just wondering here because it didn't strike me as an especially big deal. --Globular Cluster 19:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

A redirect doesn't work when you add stuff to it. A redirect is simply that. It redirects you immediately to the "correct" page. Adding the information anywhere on a redirect is a waste of time. -- Sulfur 19:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Otherwise, the article notes the various spellings in for this name. So there should be no issue. --Alan 22:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverting an image?

Alan, sorry to bother you with this, but how do you revert an image? I saw that idiotic Ronald McDonald thing that was loaded in place of Admiral Janeway's picture. Before you got to it and fixed it, I went to the history page for the image and clicked "Undo," but since the preview didn't show what image it was reverting to, I was afraid to go any further for fear of making a bigger mess. Is it as simple as clicking "Undo" or is something else involved? Thanks. - Bridge 03:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I was going to say you just hit "revert", but I had to log out of my account and see that those without "sysop" can no longer do that, used to be you could, but I guess that caused too much trouble with users? Anyway, I guess in this case, you could go to the "date/time" part of the "file history" below the image and description, click on that date/time of the previous "good" version, save the file to your computer and reupload it over the vandal file, at least for quick fix. --Alan 04:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Federation Article Suggestions

Thanks. Good ideas. However, with my very limited knowledge of episode history, I would be hard-pressed to actually shape such considerations into a proper addition to the article without having (citation needed) getting put on. Not good for a Featured Article. Which brings me to another point.

In cases where an article was posted for FA candidacy, but failed to get approval, how long should it be before re-nomination? I was planning to wait 2 months. I put it up for peer review. Additions and edits were made. Then it stopped, to the point where an admin removed the peer review. So, I thought it was ready again. Nothing changed in the article for two weeks. So I posted it again. But is there a specific time period between reposting? I've never seen any.– Watching... listening... 21:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I dont think an admin removed it before, but if nothing is happening to it, then i might just wait. I think after two or three failed noms it needs some serious rewrite before it can be up for featured article again. --Alan 11:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Phase II

New Voyages has been renamed to Phase II. Why don't you join IRC, dude? ;-) --Jörg 20:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Moving Pages

Good job on moving all of the episode pages so quickly to the new naming scheme (if one could say it like that :P). There is one thing I am curious about though, as I am myself trying to learn the things a MediaWiki can offer, and do. How were you able to move so many so fast? Did you just navigate really fast or is there a tool of some sort that I don't know about? --Terran Officer 22:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I wish there was a tool to do that, but I did it all manually. --Alan 22:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

My subpage

Thanks for putting the eplinks on my subpage. Most of that article was written before the episode link templates had been made. --OuroborosCobra talk 18:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Just Wondering

I was wondering if you like my Stardates page? Even know it's not done. --From TrekkyStar Peace and Long Life 18:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Portal talk:Main

I've responded to your comment on Portal talk:Main. (also, as it states on my user talk, please leave any and all future messages at this usertalk as I work on several wikis and I like to have my messages on one page.) Regards, Nat.tang 21:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I saw you message on your talk page, and regardless, it only makes sense to keep all Memory Alpha discussions on Memory Alpha, not off-site and out of sight. --Alan 21:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Portal talk:Main

I've responded to your reply. Regards, Nat.tang 04:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

What's wrong with "Dialogue"?

One of your bots, User:DelBeccio-bot, recently changed the spelling of "dialogue" to "dialog" in the page Unnatural Selection (episode). Why? They're both considered valid spellings in American English, with the original being most common. – Pesky 15:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I've been also meaning to ask you about your bot. It has been "removing self links" from several image maps which in turn disrupts the whole thing because a link is needed after the coordinates in an image map, even if it is a "self link". Nat.tang 17:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Question 1, I was trying to make the usage consistent throughout the site, and spell check liked one over the other so I went with it. Question 2, I don't think that was my bot. --Alan 20:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
If by several you mean 4, then yes, 4 of the several dozen unnecessary self links that were removed by my bot were unintentional. Not a big deal, just revert it. --Alan 20:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Seeing we've had previous discussions about "dialogue"/"dialog", perhaps it should be added to Memory Alpha:List of common misspellings? (With a note preferably)– Cleanse 01:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Not aware of that, and go for it. All I was going after is consistency. But anyway, after further review, "dialogue" seems to get first 'props' in my 'Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary' (be damned spell check), and as well, I've recently noticed that the spelling used in various onscreen credits, also uses the spelling. Regardless, the bot swings both ways, any and all can be fixed, it's not that big of an issue as this discussion is making it. --Alan 01:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I created a discussion over on that talk page.– Cleanse 02:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


How do you find so many images without categorys? --From TrekkyStar Open Hailing Frequencies 00:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

They have categories, they are just being moved to more specific categories. --Alan 00:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Nemesis credits

Hey, Alan. Are you almost done with the credits for Star Trek Nemesis? If you don't have time to finish them or don't feel like finishing them and need help, just let me know. --From Andoria with Love 19:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm probably not going to have time to finish them in the near future --Alan 20:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, well if you want, go ahead and e-mail what you have done to me and I'll finish 'em up. :) --From Andoria with Love 20:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

New Template

On Memory Beta they have a template named Template:User current age so when you put {{user current age|day=17|month=04|year=1984}} it put's This user is 23 years, 11 months, and 29 days old. I'm thinking that we could put it on Memory Alpha. --From TrekkyStar Open Hailing Frequencies 22:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Moved to Forum:Age template. Please don't address individual users on topics that relevant to the entire site, versus that specific user. Memory Alpha: Ten Forward is the most appropriate location for such discussions. --Alan 22:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

New image

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me with something. I've just uploaded a new image, which can be found at: File:Unnamed_alien_vessel.jpeg - could you sort it out? I can't find any mention at all of this ship, from "Silent Enemy" (ENT), or the species. They're not named, but could you link it all up and maybe edit the unnamed species and ships pages to include this one? Cheers, Dave 01:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that was on my agenda. The ship-type and species were never identified. The article would go in the appropriate section of Unnamed Alpha and Beta Quadrant starships (22nd century) and the species...I'm not sure where that would go yet, we have Unnamed humanoids (22nd century), but I'm not sure they qualify as "humanoid". Looking at the other images from that episode, Category:Memory Alpha images by episode (ENT: Silent Enemy), I'd say they've been avoided altogether. --Alan 02:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know what you mean by non-humans. They were bipeds, with faces almost like humans (the eyes were in the right place, the "mouth" was....). I'll edit the necessary pages now, unless you're doing so. Dave 02:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC) And how do I get the pic on this page: Dave 02:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

You have to cite the image, as well as give it proper wiki markup, and copyright template. See: Memory Alpha:Cite your sources. For example the wiki content should look something like:

An unknown alien starship encountered by Enterprise (NX-01) in 2151. (ENT: "Silent Enemy")

{{image paramount}}

Category:Memory Alpha images (starships)

I already changed the image content to what is shown above, so you can look at that too, but it is the adding of {{ENT|Silent Enemy}} that gets you to that category: Category:Memory_Alpha_images_by_episode_(ENT:_Silent_Enemy). You'd have to look at the actual markup on that page to do it properly, the way I posted it above was so you could see the outcome. Also, instead of posting the entire we address, you can do like I did above and bracket [[ ]] the last part of the address following the ____ -- if that makes sense--Alan 02:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Cheers, thanks for your help. I've sorted the rest out about the ship and species. Dave 02:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


Hey Alan. Just a small point. Was it necessary to rag on Ultraice on the IfD? I know there were some issues with him in the past, but he's served his time, and I think we should play nice. The fact that he's back demonstrates he probably just wants to contribute.

Also, off topic, but I just wanted to say, nice work on Andorian cruiser yesterday. I don't know where you dig this stuff up from, but its great. --- Jaz 05:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you must be confused, or unsure what you are really defending. Ultraice is a sockpuppet vandal, per Angela, who was blocked, and then reblocked by you, 17 days ago, for the duration of a year for "Vandalism: Returning vandal, previously given 3 days, threatened to continue vandalism". So, to be accurate, he's serving his time, and far from being back nor demonstrating anything anytime soon.
Also, thanks, but other than an image tweak a week ago, I haven't done anything significant with Andorian cruiser since June '07... --Alan 05:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

My mistake. How did he get back on? --- Jaz 05:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the log, his 3 month (not 3 day) block was up on April 4th, and on April 10th he came back..briefly. --Alan 05:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

CCG Question

Could I get your opinion on this? Thanks. ---- Willie LLAP 20:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

ENT:Future Tense

Why are you reversing my edits for this episode? The least you could do is leave me a message about it! I thought I was going crazy until I checked the recent changes page.

The quotes I corrected are incorrect in your version (I just finished watching the episode), and the ones I added are relevant and memorable. Also, unless you have evidence to the contrary, nobody played the "timeship pilot", it was probably just a prop. As for the other "uncredited actors", I changed them to a format I found in earlier episodes that allows for an easy change if someone comes up with a name for one of them.

And my other changes were legit as well. There is an existing page for State of the Union Address, I only added the link to make it easier to access.

The wiki is supposed to be a collaborative effort,right? Are you going to start reversing all of my changes? — Greg (talk) 00:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I did leave a message about why i reverted it – the first time i reverted it. the Timeship pilot is a "character", regardless if we know it was a dummy or not (which we don't). Also, the need to list "unknown actor" for every unnamed character is not necessary, it can all be grouped together under a single unknown actor or unknown performers. Everything else was collateral damage, so to say, because I got tired of changing the same "uncredited" section over and over after I had explained the first revert, yet it still continued without explanation, until now. --Alan 00:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, Alan, explanation accepted, now listen to my side. The reason I resubmitted the changes several times is because I was convinced that I had somehow forgotten to submit the changes after looking at the preview - I have done this before, as, no doubt, have we all! I did not even think to look at the recent changes page until after the last time I submitted the changes, when I was certain I had submitted the changes yet they did not show up on the page! So I was not trying to defy you, I was simply trying to compensate for my apparent error in not submitting the changes.

Imagine my frustration before I finally looked at the recent changes page. If you had simply left me a quick message on my talk page, I would have received a "new message" alert and I would not have resubmitted the changes as I did. We could have had an orderly discussion about it there and all of this would never have happened.

BTW, your snyde "That's not all you were changing..." comment on the discussion page for that episode completely discredits your explanation now that the rest was "collateral damage". You were clearly resistant to any changes being made on the page. But that is the point of the wiki, isn't it. Unless the changes are wrong or somehow detract from the usefulness of the wiki (like vandalism), we are all welcome to make changes as we see fit.

I am perfectly willing to drop the whole thing now if you are, but this should give you a better idea about my side of our shared experience. Again, thanks for all you do here... I know it is a lot of work. I am relatively new to memory-alpha but I am an admin and contributor for several wikia pages and have been doing this for most of the last year, so I am not a babe in the woods. No hard feelings... — Greg (talk) 13:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, aill I kept seeing was you chancging the single unknown performers]to multiple unknown actors linkss, but what you brought up on the talk page was only referring to the one part of teh "uncredited actors section", whcih is qquite honestly the only thing I *saw*, (just like all you saw was me removing your quote fixes and links) yet you only brought up part of the changes that were happening to that section that I explained in my first revert, or were ever concerned with, hnece: "That's not all you were changing...". It had nothing to do with "resistance" to your :other" edits, just the ones that were removing or deevoloving the format that I jad just updated to the proper format. I didnt care about anything else you were doing..that's not what I was 'monitoring', which is what i explained on the other talk page with the two recent changes links i pointed out,. Thats all i have to say on that--Alan 15:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

It's that time...

Happy birthday, old man! ;)

I accept all major credit cards.


Alan, please take a look at Talk:Rossi when you get a chance. I think I've proved that Hilde Garcia is this character. What do you think? Should we proceed with adjusting all the relevant pages? I've left this same note at ThomasHL's talk page, since he seems to be our resident background extra expert, and I wanted his opinion as well. It looked like from the history of the Rossi page that you created it, which is why I'm asking you to weigh in on the subject. Thanks! - Bridge 23:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

You're a machine

I don't think I can keep up with all your images (checking them and fixing if necessary). I was planning on doing something similar when I had some free time to update all the images with as high-quality ones as I could get...I guess you're saving me some time :) --Morder 22:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not uploading new images, I'm just fixing the categories on the existing images. --Alan 22:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


I noticed a glitch on the Vulcan Uniform page. In the second ambassadorial uniform section, both thumbnails are the same image (Lojal), but the first one is supposed to be T'Pel, and clicking on the thumbnail brings you to the correct image. I can't see anything in the code that wrong, but I noticed you had tweaked the image once before and thought you might have an idea on how to correct it. Thoughts? --User:twilder

WTF? I just went to look at again, and now it's fine. But nobody's edited the page. Now I'm really confused.

Yeah, looked fine to me...also, really dont think a "tweak" i did year and a half ago would still be affecting it today. --Alan 03:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

No, but I figured you might have an idea since you seem to do a fair amount image work (better to ask someone with experience, yes?). Thanks anyway. Maybe it was a glitch with my browser. --User:twilder

Tuvok Article Discussion Page.

Visit it. Let us reason with one another on this. – Watching... listening... 18:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Star Trek: Borg character images

I was looking at the stuff you did with Star Trek: Borg -- good work btw, just remember to add non-canon redirects to the non-canon redirect list. Also, for the images, logically, they should be in the game art image category, and strictly speaking the company to which they're copyright is Simon and Schuster, the publishers of the game. Just some thoughts and such. -- Sulfur 13:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

To quote myself on my last edit, "for a start, will finish later" ... so yeah, preaching to the choir here, but I wasn't done yet. :) But seeing as you had time to kill, thanks for the hand. --Alan 17:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Episode: I Borg

I was absolutely positive there was a comma in the title. Just checked several places and they all say there is... then checked the episode and couldn't believe there wasn't! Well spotted... Dave 00:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


Let's discuss this here. --Alan 05:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that

Sorry for creating the talk page ahead of you....I didn't realize nothing had been written on it yet.--31dot 02:49, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Section headers

Hey. I've noticed that you've reverted several edits I've made in the last time, especially for the section headers in the cast list of the episodes. I know the policy but have you ever checked the episodes? We go for every screen credit and try to spell and write all what is seen on screen. When you check the episodes there is always "Guest Stars" and "Co-Star", both words capitalized. I don't want to start an "edit war", so any ideas? Shouldn't we go for the screen credits? And btw, I always write "Uncredited Stunt doubles", because they received no screen credit and served as doubles. When you or someone else is changing this into simply "stunts", we should list all stunt performers in this section, what means also the performers who actually portray a character... and I think they should belong into the "Uncredited Co-Stars" section. – Tom 12:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't have any problem following on screen formatting, but as I see to be getting singled out for this, I must say that I think Renegade really is the one who started the header thing, as it contradicted MA title formatting, and I (and others) have simply been following through with it (vs. falling victim to Renegade's no-win formatting axe), you've been the only one who has had a problem with it, and it always seems to come back to me somehow. (Victim of my own edit count, I guess) Also, other than films, what TV stunt double has been credited that would require them to be differentiated from an uncredited stunt double? None, so short form makes the most sense here. --Alan 14:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Take it to my talk page

If you want to attack me, take it to my talk page. Don't spread the crap where both you and sulfur are acting like 3 year olds (you've earned a demotion from 5) on to completely unrelated pages to your original dispute. Unless you want to continue proving that the admins here have no business being that. --OuroborosCobra talk 22:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

What in the name of the Seven Gods are you talking about... --Alan 22:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You know exactly what I am talking about, and now you are trying to play the victim. It doesn't work when you play it with sulfur, with me, or anyone else. I'm not taking crap from you. --OuroborosCobra talk 22:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So what you're saying is that it's all fair game as long as you keep the name calling to the summary lines... Perhaps you should explain that to WoWWiki-Xavius, because I apparently failed in my attempt. --Alan 23:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So you were lying when you said you didn't know what this was about. Fun, so dishonesty is also an admin function, I guess. You guys disgust me. --OuroborosCobra talk 23:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Pot, meet Kattle. Kattle, meet pot. Whatever you do, please keep me out of this particular discussion (and, yes, that includes edit summaries). This is just childish bullshit - and if you're insulted be me calling it this, I most likely have a point. Anyway, no need to insult others in edit summaries - which, somehow, all three of you managed to do nicely within the last 48 hours, while at the same time complaining about exactly this behaviour. Congratulations! :)
Alan: No need to spread this to other peoples talk pages. Avoid Sarcasm, it most often does not work in print. Fucking stop!
Cobra: No need to play the lawyer for someone who can very well do that himself, if he thinks it's necessary. Fucking stop!
Everyone:Good night. -- Cid Highwind 23:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Cid, you smell bad, and your mother dresses you funny. --Bp 23:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, it was a guess, actually. Anyway, thank you Cid for ending this... :) --Alan 23:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Changes German MA

Thank you for the linkfix in de:Sodbrennen. But please be aware: In German it is: "Externe Links" as it was, not "Externe link". Thank you.--Tobi72 06:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

So one link is plural in german? --Alan 06:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
LMFAO sorry couldn't resist an LOL at that one :P --Jlandeen 22:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

On a more positive note...

Out of curiosity, were you a member of GVSU's Sci Fi club between 2004 and 2006? If so, I think I may have met ya before! Feel free to delete this if you don't want RL stuff on this page, I couldn't find a way to contact you otherwise. --Talon Lardner 08:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I graduated from there in '02. Otherwise you can contact me via this link. --Alan 08:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that, false alarm, I suppose. Sorry about that. --Talon Lardner 08:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

np. im'a closet trekker anyway, my name is an alias and i speak of it to no one off the net. so while i had no knowledge of such a club when i was there, i probably wouldn't have joined it anyway. ;) ---Alan 08:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Quit messing around

Quit messing around with my talk page, will you? Its really annoying and rather pointless on top of it all. Who cares if there are spelling errors or something, on my damn talk page. Their not even in your posts. – Marjolijn 00:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm doing site maintenance. It's part of my job. So chill... Let's not forget to mention that I explained that in the edit summary as well. --Alan 00:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Hamlet and Macbeth

In this image (File:Anton Karidian performs Hamlet.jpg), Karidian is actually performing Macbeth. Is a re-upload with an altered title justified? --JemHadar359 18:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Calling all hands

I would really like to invite your input on what to do about the Able Seaman situation. Fletcher's notes DO list the rank by that title which contradicts several other Star Trek productions which call that pin simply as Crewman. Please chime in over at Talk:Starfleet ranks. Thanks. -FC 20:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


Hey, how are you. I mean this in a good way...I really do. I hit by accident your "User contributions" and saw the edits you made in the past day. Did you really edit Memory Alpha for nine straight hours? That is impressive and I'm sure the site benefited! :-) -FC 06:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

You probably dont need to protect the talk page. I was done with that conversation and have no plans to add further too it. I think anyone reading it can see what happened after you and I finished talking. As far as your edit header getting changed, I guess if thats okay with you then its okay with me too. By the way, all kidding aside, excellent expansion of that article; well done. -FC 03:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

His title made more sense, and really, mine only went with my "pre-rewrite" version of the talk page...just didn't change it after I decided to rewrite that too. --Alan 03:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Thanks for the welcome and links. Not sure I can offer much here, but if I "DO" see a typo or something, I'll be happy to fix it. Have a great 2009

  • oops ... forgot sig Omega Memory 14:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


You are the God of wiki burns. Jaf 22:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Jaf


This is going to sound very stupid but what exactly am I doing wrong? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vince47 (talk • contribs).

The links you are using are all the redirect. Just look at my changes, paying specific attention to the episode linking here, here and here. See: Help:Linking to episodes and films. --Alan 01:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Feedback needed

Sorry to bother you, but I would really like to prevent my FA-nomination from passing unnoticed. I'd be deeply grateful for every feedback! Thank you, --36ophiuchi 11:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey. Why Vangerweg and not Vanderweg? – Tom 14:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Appears to have been a typo. I've moved the page, and fixed the typo and discovered that there was another link to the "correct" spelling. -- sulfur 15:31, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Indeed, without too much overthinking, that is the logical conclusion. --Alan 16:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to say, I really love your alternate MA logo...– Distantlycharmed 20:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Cynthia Uhrich

Okay, sorry about the quip! I didn't intend to add that message to every episode, just the few (three) where I did it, thinking I would get a better response than I would on her own discussion page.

I see you added a list of appearances to her article, but should she have a spot in Unnamed Enterprise (NX-01) personnel as well? I would add it myself but I'm not sure where she should go or what name to assign to her. — Greg (talk) 07:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Starfleet Command II

Hi Alan, I was just wondering. I have been looking at the Star Trek: Starfleet Command II - Empires at War page in an attempt to increase the size of it, as it is currently a stub and I am playing the game at the moment. In terms of the species that appear, should I create new pages for them or add them to the page? As they're not canon it could be difficult, and I don't want the article to get too long. I'll be uploading some screenshots soon (I hope). Actually, just thought. Could I create the species a page that links to the SCII page with a "/" in the title? So, eg, like this: [[Star Trek: Starfleet Command II - Empires at War/Hydrans]]? Do let me know. DaveSubspace Message 01:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

There should definitely be no new articles created for non-canon stuff, nor the creation of sub-pages (your "/" suggestion.) I would suggest taking a look and probably following the format used on say Star Trek: Armada, or Star Trek: The Next Generation - A Final Unity, where each non-canon item gets a subsection and possibly a link on memory beta. In addition, you can do what you wish (create new pages and such) on memory beta, the wiki for such things. --Alan 04:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


Should be working now. — Morder 19:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Crewman first class, The Crossing.jpg

Just fyi, I removed the actors name because this image already links to the actor, below in the section Links. – Tom 22:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am fully aware of that, but an fyi back to ya, it didn't link here, which is just as important in building the web. --Alan
Alright, understood your message. Thanks. – Tom 23:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

"Wecome" Image

I don't appreciate you posting an image from "Enterprise" on my discussion page. What's worse, is that I can't take the damn thing off! I'd like to keep the links and information that you posted, but I can't stand that non-canon bullsh*t. How can I remove that stupid picture?!? Get rid of it!! --TOS Purist 05:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It's the standard welcome template. --Alan 05:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I know that. Get rid of the picture (please). --TOS Purist 05:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

That's just how it is. It's your talk page, not your user page and hardly worth your drama, and this discussion is absolutely ridiculous to the point of being immature. --Alan 05:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

What's ridiculous is the stupid picture that you HAD to include with the welcome, and the fact that you're treating a valid user complaint like it's not worth your time. What image did you use before "Unity" was aired? If you're not going to help me, I'll just have to get rid of all the information and links - so thanks for nothing. --TOS Purist 05:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

First of all, I didn't include, create, or even suggest the use of the image (which is, by the way, the only image ever used) for this template. Second, it's permanently hardwired into the template in question, a template that has been used on over 3800 user talk pages. You are hardly the first, nor the last to see it. --Alan 05:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for editing the template - I really appreciate it. :) --TOS Purist 20:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Jeannie Malone

Hello, I've noticed you adding Jeannie Malone to a bunch of TOS episodes. I'm guessing this is the blonde woman usually seen on the bridge. I was wondering where you got the information about her from? In an e-mail conversation I had with Eddie Paskey he said her last name was Shephard. Myko 08:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Jeannie Shepard is an article we already have, although a stub. – Tom 08:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Bill Blackburn in one of his treasure chest home movie/interviews from either TOS-R Season 2 DVD or TOS-R Season 3 DVD, which also has at least two shots of her being used for makeup tests. --Alan 12:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


Sorry, I had no idea that I could directly replace a file. I have done that now, and replaced the fuzzy Borg image that I didn't like with my better, enhanced one. You can delete the duplicate image, if you'd like. Now the implants are more readily visible. If you don't like it, you could always change it back, this is a wiki... But first, compare the two, I saw a big difference. Mine may be a slightly larger file size, however, it is also higher quality. It is the same image, just heavily enhanced, so that viewers can better admire the Borg implants. As an appreciator of the Borg, and any images of them, I have to say, that mine is better, but, as you are more experienced, you make the final say. Thanks, ZephramCochran 18:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the "trouble"

Sorry for the "trouble", but they were contacting me. --From TrekkyStar Open Hailing Frequencies 20:24, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to make sure everyone involved was contacted. --Alan 22:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Background Bullets


The background bullets are acting up for me as I mentioned before. They appear fine on my home computer, but at work, using XP and Explorer, they don't. Instead of lining up with the first line of BG info, they center on it, and it's difficult to read. I'm only bringing it up because it might be some kind of wikia issue that I thought you should be aware of. — Vince47 07:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Vince, it's a problem with IE and it's a global wikia problem. It's a general stylesheet issue that has been brought up everywhere. I think there's a forum here about it but there hasn't been a solution other than stop using IE :) — Morder 07:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


That was fast. :-p Keep up the good work.– Cleanse 10:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

yup. For whatever reason the TNG one didnt come up for me. --Alan 10:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


Alan, I don't know if you're around right now, but I could do with some help in the IRC channel. We've got a moron who needs kicking, and ChanServ won't let me op myself. I know you've held an op position in the past, so maybe you have it figured out. -- Michael Warren | Talk 15:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Dealt with. -- sulfur 15:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the invite. unfortunately, i think i use up far more time than i should on Wikipedia. you can always contact me at my wikipedia talk page though. Thanks 05:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Picard impostor

How the fuck is questioning the rationale behind adding that useless link that is not even mirror any kind of violation of anything? I thought the proper procedure for finalizing these is to take to the talk page (which was done) and discuss. And mind you, I believe i gave a damn good explanation as to why this link is clutter and shouldnt be up there. If you have any reasons as to why it should be there then mention it in the discussion and dont freakin' have your robot automatically remove it. I dont think that goes with policy does it? – Distantlycharmed 04:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

First of all, what are you spazzing out about, and second, what gives you the right to talk to me in that tone? My 'bot' removed nothing, it was making a maintenance related edit. That is all it does. --Alan 04:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

What maintenance? It was the link on the JLP page that kept getting reverted and yours was the last entry that "undid". And yeah sorry for going off on you - you're right, I shouldnt have done that - my apologies. I assumed you knew what your thingy was doing. – Distantlycharmed 04:50, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I didnt know what "my thing" was doing, and the only reason why it was doing it is because the "I" is "(Impostor)" is lower case per naming conventions. I haven't read nor am giving much a thought on reading whatever discussions that are going on, and even if there is a dispute, shouldn't the disputed title at least follow naming guidelines? Yeah, probably. --Alan 04:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I mean your robot. I dont know it goes around automatically moving/fixing stuff around. Anyway I really thought you knew what was going on. Sorry again for going off on you like that. I hope you believe me.– Distantlycharmed 05:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Scratch that. I meant to say that I did know what it was doing, I have to tell it what to do. And besides, I moved the page, all it did was correct the links so I didn't have to doing it manually. And regardless, no content was changed whatsoever, so I have no idea why that should even matter to you. --Alan 05:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at the very last entry and the edit had been reverted and it was showing your robot etc - so I thought the content was changed. I didnt even know it was a robot frankly, it had your name on it and that's all I saw. I guess i didnt look closely enough to see that this actually didnt change the contents but mere spelling. My bad - really. – Distantlycharmed 05:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Invitiation to join service record game

Hey, how are you doing. I would like to invite you to take a look at a new internet game I designed. If you wuld like to play it, you can send an e-mail to It requires as much or as little participation as you want and the records generated by the game are regularly e-mailed and can be burned to a CD when/if a character retires. I think you will truely enjoy it and I am looking for live action player. Thank you! -FC 17:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

120m Defiant

I've started a discussion on the Defiant class length issue, so we can actually try and get a real solution. It seems like we aren't all on the same page here, some people thinking there is a source, some people thinking it is speculation, etc. Let's try to actually present a source, all that jazz. --OuroborosCobra talk 20:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi. I am wondering: what is up with the MA Chat? It is the strangest I've ever seen; I see many names as being logged in, but no conversation in the chat window and frequently get no response on saying something. What's up? – Crimsondawn hears you... 17:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

"Please wait for a response as we are constantly phasing in and out of the space-time continuum." in, I, for one, am on all the time, just not at my computer. The joys of cable internet. --Alan 18:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
OK. Got it. Thanks. :) – Crimsondawn hears you... 18:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Good news, everyone Alan!

Image moving is now possible, thanks to the recent MediaWiki upgrade we got! (Available for sysops only at the moment, but that of course doesn't matter to you...) -- Michael Warren | Talk 15:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Canon Policy

I am wondering: is there any flexibility at all in the "Only Information Films and Shows Are Allowed Here" rule or is it cast-iron? – Crimsondawn hears you... 00:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, first I have to ask what you had in mind, but ultimately, to answer you, no, the definition of canon is pretty clear, both in reality and in our policy. --Alan 00:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
If you want to bring up suggestions and comments about it, then you might want to visit the talk page as relates to the policy. That's the best place to do it. -- sulfur 00:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I was just wondering if there was any room here for characters from novels. Some of the novel characters are, in my opinion, a lot better than anything seen onscreen. One in particular comes to mind: Jekri Kaleh from the Dark Matters trilogy by Christie Golden. But never mind. The policy is clear. – Crimsondawn hears you... 00:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

In that case... you want to check out Memory Beta. :) -- sulfur 00:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Just did. A non-canon trek wiki that will accept information from novels. Thanks. :) – Crimsondawn hears you... 00:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Unlocking Star Trek film page

How come this hasn't been done yet? I have a complete version of the story ready to place in the page, but it is still locked. DaveSubspace Message 04:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, all I can say is that if you left this message, then it's not locked. --Alan 04:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


Congratulations on your marriage. :) – Crimsondawn hears you... 15:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for cleaning up all those redirects! -- Captain MKB 17:23, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


Seriously what?- JustPhil 17:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

What i said and what you ignored in my previous message... --Alan 17:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know what you mean.- JustPhil 17:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Re-read the note i left on your talk page about wikification. Something you are not doing when creating new articles... --Alan 17:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but my style is to get something started so more knowledgeable people can finish it off.- JustPhil 17:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Just so you can be first to create the article... well if that's best for you... --Alan 17:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

No offense, but that style has worked for me on Wikipedia and a few other Wikis since 2004.- JustPhil 17:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Will this wiki is neither, and no offense, but creates a hell of a lot of unnecessary work for the rest of us running doing insanely simple tasks the previous contributor could have done. If there is one thing this wiki prides, it is how tidy we try to keep it. --Alan 17:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

ST XI actor images

I have downloaded an HD vid of the LA primiere, with very nice footage of the individual stars posing , giving interviews etc. I am able to pause it and clip stills off of it as images. Can they be used here legally until better images are obtained? – Crimsondawn hears you... 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Forum:Star Trek (film) - Reminder: Image use policy / Copyrights --Alan 22:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Right. So they cannot be used here. Thanks anyway. :) – Crimsondawn hears you... 23:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


A couple of questions:

  • Just wondering: how long will the spoiler notices be used on ST XI articles and content? When will it become "old news"?
  • How exactly does ST IX fit into canon? I thought it was a mainline look at the early lives of the TOS crew, but it is something very different: a whole new timeline. Is it a reboot of the franchise?

Crimsondawn hears you... 23:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

The spoiler notice may be days, weeks, months, or up to the DVD release, afaik that hasnt been determined. It fits into canon by being an alternate reality parallel to the other 40 years worth of material. Again, this is all being discussed in the various film related forums. --Alan 23:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for deleting and moving that PfD discussion. I thought about it but wasn't sure if that was the correct move. Now I know. :) --31dot 01:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Image for Kirk

Hey, question: why do you keep removing the profile pic for James T. Kirk (alternate reality) and state that it's the wrong POV? How is that the wrong POV for the profile pic? The current picture is a little larger than a thumbnail and not really appropriate as a "profile" picture. Thanks. – Distantlycharmed 07:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The previous picutre is a publicity photo of Chris Pine, not a photo of Kirk from the movie. Hence, wrong POV.--31dot 07:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I suspect that once the movie comes out on DVD we will be able to get a better photo.--31dot 07:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
It's a picture of Kirk on the bridge, with Sulu I believe behind him. How is that not a picture of Kirk from the movie?– Distantlycharmed 07:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Pine is looking right at the camera, as is Cho, I think. The photo ws also distributed as a publicity photo and is not from the movie itself.--31dot 07:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The man is in uniform. He has scrapes and scratches on his face. He is on the bridge. Speaking of nit-picking. Moreover, nearly all of the other profile pics have been distributed as publicity and/or are stills. Profile pics dont have to be screen-shots from the movie and looking into the camera is not a disqualifier for a profile pic or wrong POV. It's not like he is in a suit and tie or a sweater at a promo. – Distantlycharmed 07:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The fact that he is in uniform is irrelevant, as he was not in character if he was looking at the camera. That mixes the POV of the article and photo. If there are other publicity photos used on a charater's page, then those should be changed, too.--31dot 07:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
What?? "It's not a picture of Kirk in the movie"?. Are you kididng. Sorry, sounds made-up to me. It's like you trying really hard to justify why this image shouldnt be there, even though it would be a perfectly good one as Kirk's profile picture. It's not like the man is shown in a photograph at some award show, it's a shot from the movie for cryin' out loud. Give it a rest. – Distantlycharmed 17:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I've responded to this on your userpage, as this does not involve Alan.--31dot 18:25, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Sean Hawk fix

Thanks for the help!! leandar 03:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Deck layout

Sorry, I had not seen that guideline; still, as you can see, I had to modify my message to make sense with the quote being placed directly above, and you couldn't have done that yourself without altering my text. – NotOfTheBody 20:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

neophyte query

Greetings, I am new here (though I frequent about a dozen other wiki's) and would like to know which pages I should avoid to keep from getting substantial spoilers for the new movie. I know the standard spoiler policy applies, but would like to lessen exposure to such things as much as possible. Exdeath64 22:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Most likely anything linked here, here or here. --Alan 22:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Preator's block

You know Preator can still edit his talk page while blocked, right? :) I would just protect his talk page and leave his account unblocked, it's not like he's going to edit anything, anyway. --From Andoria with Love 14:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Eh, I guess the thought was to give him an opportunity to respond to comments; obviously he responded, but not the way I had hoped. I blame the intense sugar rush from the *new* Mountain Dew: Throwback I had for breakfast. (PS: it tastes awful).. --Alan 14:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I prefer Mr. PiBB- JustPhil 14:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, what the heck is with those Pepsi Throwback drinks, anyway? "Made with natural sugar", huh? :-P --From Andoria with Love 14:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Nevermind, I neglected to realize sodas are made with high fructose corn syrup now rather than natural sugar. Doy! Okay, time for some sleep, later. :) --From Andoria with Love 15:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I was disappointed to learn that I found HFCS to be more tasteful than sugar. I was even more disappointed to learn that they didnt go well with my favorite Mnt. Dew companion food, Nacho Combos. --Alan 15:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

A Well-Deserved Salutation

I must say you admins are good. You have carefully controlled the adjustment to the quantum shift in the ST universe that has occurred with ST XI, setting out specific policies and guidelines on which new additions to the wiki are added from the movie, and regulated the input in a very competent. To be honest, I was expecting chaos. I should have known better; this wiki has existed for years and thus has certainly had to deal with such changes before, every time a new movie or series comes out. You, Shran, Morder Jörg and the other admins handle your business here very well indeed. I salute all of you, as should every other user. :) – Crimsondawn hears you... 21:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Heads up

Just wanted to be forthright and let you know I tweaked the whole alternate Constitution class page, just because we still haven't found an in-film justification yet. I'm just going with site policy, no trying to be contrary or anything. I'd like to think we're both working towards site improvement, here. Thanks in advance, Dangerdan97 15:54, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

block status

I've unblocked you as I can't see any harrassment you have committed. I have never seen you act in a harassing manner and absent direct proof I see no reason to block you at all, let alone for a month.--31dot 21:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but it didn't matter, I could have unblocked myself at any time. --Alan 00:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


Hi, Alan! I'd like to take this opportunity to let you know that I am truly very sorry for having believed you were "out to get me", as it were, and for consequently banning you. I realize I probably should have made another attempt to talk through my issues with another admin, instead of trying to deal with it myself. You have my humble apologies, and your work here is fantastic - I never meant to criticize the majority of your edits and, now that Cid Highwind has helped me by explaining the need for disk space, I have a better understanding of why you've been deleting previous versions of images and I'm consequently more accepting of this happening, since I now know that the reason is disk space rather than sort of personal vendetta! I hope our disagreements are over, Alan, as I honestly am a fan of your work here on MA and would sincerely hate to "fall out" with such a valuable contributor as yourself! All the best, and may your good work continue! --Defiant 14:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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