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Darth Duranium

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Welcome to Memory Alpha, Darth Duranium! I've noticed that you've already made some contributions to our database – thanks for your edit to the Konami page! We all hope that you'll enjoy our activities here and decide to join our community.

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If you have any questions, please feel free to post them in our Ten Forward community page. Thanks, and once again, welcome to Memory Alpha! -- Cleanse (Talk) 08:44, 9 September 2010

The above named user is the most currently available administrator to contribute to Memory Alpha; their signature was automatically added by User:Wikia. If you have any immediate questions or concerns, you may contact that user through their talk page.

Image uploads

All of your images uploads desperately need citations and licenses or they will all have to be (sadly) removed. Please check out some of the other images on the wiki for such collectibles and read our image use policy. Due to the fact that we are displaying copyright material, we need to ensure that we do things "by the book" to satisfy the copyright holders. -- sulfur 13:20, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

While we appreciate the contributions, seriously, you need to add the proper copyright templates to your images or they will be deleted. We would be more than happy to explain the how and why in detail if you have any questions, before you upload any more. - Archduk3 07:59, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm a complete newbie and am learning as I go. I just now figured out this "talk page" stuff for the first time so I can finally respond. I still don't know how to add the copyright info but someone else did so right away, for which I'm thankful. BTW, blocking someone brand new to the wiki is extremely unfriendly, really discourages one from contributing, and smacks of power tripping. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darth Duranium (talk • contribs).

Actually, blocking someone from editing until they read/respond on their talk page is a common wiki process, since generally, their talk page is the only thing that they can edit. In terms of adding the copyright information (etc) to the images, take a look at a few of the images you did upload, and take into account what was done on those. When you're uploading a new image, use the same kind of information in the "description" box on the upload page.

Also, please sign your talk page comments with ~~~~ so that people know who they are from. Thanks! -- sulfur 10:00, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sulfur, I disagree with the blocking rationale (it was clearly used in a punitive way against me) and I appreciate that you didn't block me, despite my newbie ineptitude. Anyway, there's obviously some way to add the copyright info to images after the fact. For future reference, could you share instructions? I'd be happy to comply with all of the wiki rules, if I could just find the necessary info.-Darth Duranium 20:44, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

When we block like that so that someone can rad their talk page, it's not at all punitive. I've used that method many a time.

In terms of adding stuff after the fact, go to the image page (when you click on the image and it comes up in a new mini-window, click on the small page-icon in the bottom right corner. You can then edit the image details page. -- sulfur 21:08, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Not punitive? Not power tripping? I'm still blocked days later because I didn't know how to edit the image attributes, which had been immediately fixed by you using the info at hand. Damn me to hell! Anyway, thanks for the info, the fixes, and for not blocking me Sulfur. I will use it next time, if there is a next time. If there was a lack of copyright info that was left unaddressed, wouldn't the images have been deleted after 7 days anyway? -Darth Duranium

For deletions, it would have been when someone was going to do cleanup work. We try to make our best effort to find out what they are and such, but cannot always manage to do so. As far as I can tell, your block actually expired this morning (my time), so you should be able to edit and upload. -- sulfur 21:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, it must have been re-applied by the same blocker. It now extends from the 13th to the 14th. No reason given. Is there someone in authority to appeal to? - Darth Duranium
I blocked you for 24 hours once for failing to respond to comments on your talk page and continuing to engage in actions that you were asked to stop until these issues could be resolved. The reason we block people for this has nothing to do with going on a power trip, but has to do with making sure you read this page; you would have been unblocked immediately upon responding here. Images without a copyright are a legal issue, one that doesn't really go away after it's deleted, since we were still breaking the law for at least a week by the time they are deleted. - Archduk3 22:08, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
I didn't know how to respond. The talk page stuff isn't exactly an intuitive interface, nor are the image attributes.
This is what I see when I try to edit a page right now... and I've been blocked more than 24 hours:
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Archduk3.
The reason given is this:
Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Darth Duranium".
The reason given for Darth Duranium's block is: "READ YOUR TALK PAGE"
Start of block: 01:21, September 13, 2010
Expiry of block: 01:21, September 14, 2010- Darth Duranium

It should have expired that block at the same time. Yet another oddity in MediaWiki. Heh. Try it again now? -- sulfur 22:25, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again, Sulfur. I'm finally unblocked. I sure prefer your supportive approach to helping out newbies. Cheers! - Darth Duranium
Could you please add this to your toy and collectible uploads: [[Category:Memory Alpha images (toys and collectibles)]]. This will put them in the correct category at upload, so it doesn't have to be done latter. Thanks. - Archduk3 04:39, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
Sure, where do I add it? Darth Duranium 06:25, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
Never mind. Done. I'll add it whenever required. Darth Duranium 07:09, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
Dude, seriously, add a image category during/after uploading. - Archduk3 08:45, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
If you're not seeing the links to the categories when in the editing, it's most likely because you have the "Category Select" option in your preferences turned on (it's the default setting). You would need to go and check the "Disable Category Select" box under the "Editing" tab and save to fix that. - Archduk3 10:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Talk pages

Per Help:Talk pages, older posts should be archived, and not simply removed. If you wish to clean up this page, I would suggest starting an archived subpage to transfer them to.--31dot 09:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton page

If you're going to be working on it for a while, I would suggest two things:

  1. {{inuse}} at the top
  2. the use of "preview" while you get the list of things in there and correct.

Otherwise, people will see the article needing format work and begin editing it. -- sulfur 13:56, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Also, please note that the company already has an article here on Memory Alpha, at The Hamilton Collection, which is their proper name according to their webpage. When you are "done" with the version you are working on, I am going to merge the two articles together, but leave a redirect from the "Hamilton Collectibles" article. -- sulfur 14:00, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah dude, I know. I put the page together, apart from the new title and formatting.
If there wasn't already an Ensign Hamilton or something, just "Hamilton" would have been my choice. "The Hamilton Collection" doesn't tell the whole story either. The company was known as Hamilton Gifts for years and nowadays they churn out stuff as CBS Consumer Products. I'll up some pics and maybe we can sort it out

Image descriptions

Please note that image descriptions, unless for behind-the-scenes images (and noted as such) should be in the correct POV. That means that we describe them in an in-universe way, noting "real world" facts as background information. Thanks. -- sulfur 12:14, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

OK, news to me but but that "rule" is highly inconsistent across MA. The real problem was that the pic info had been altered and was now incorrect, regardless of POV. Might have been helpful if the editor had read the Hallmark and AMT articles completely or had discussed it before making the alteration. Thanks Darth Duranium 12:37, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

It shouldn't be inconsistent. In fact, it's fairly consistent everywhere I've seen. If an article is marked as "real world" at the top, then it should be written from a "Real world" point of view (like the AMT article, for example). Images, if they are in a "production" category, then they are written that way too. If they are episode screenshots, then they are described with an "in-universe" POV. Any background information can be marked with indented italics or the use of the {{bginfo}} template. -- sulfur 12:47, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Image names

Please make sure that before you hit the upload button that all you files names comply with the image policy, mainly lowercase file extensions and spaces between words. This makes it much easier to find files latter in articles. - Archduk3 12:48, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Spam talk

Please don't create talk pages to spam, as its all going to be deleted anyway. Just tag the spam page with {{delete}} and leave it for an administrator. Thanks.–Cleanse ( talk | contribs ) 08:31, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation links

Please make sure that you're not linking directly to disambiguation pages such as the Copernicus link on the Johnny Lightning page. If it's a specific shuttle, link to that shuttle.

Having said that, everything I'd read about that shuttle was suggestive that it was the shuttle from TNG (the name of the planet mentioned was from the TNG episode for example), rather than the TOS shuttle, that's why I linked to the TNG one. -- sulfur (talk) 14:28, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

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