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Age of #nset of Pon FarrEdit

The section on Pon farr implies Vulcans go through it starting in their teens or twenties, and Spock, going through it in his thirties was an aberration (and that in Genesis, going through it in his teens was more normal). However, evidence of every other Vulcan in the series would suggest the opposite. Sarek was in his 50s-60s for his first Pon Farr with Sybok's mother, T'Pol has not married or undergone her first Pon Farr before 'Bounty' when she is around 60 (and doesn't marry Koss, who has not undergone pon farr either by season 4). Tuvok married in his 40s. Tuvok's eldest son had a child from his first Pon Farr, and likely was around 60, assuming he was born before Tuvok rejoined Starfleet.

We don't know the age Vorik was on Voyager, but it is unlikely he is younger than 25 based on his rank and experience, but could be older.

My guess is that 35 is early (but not unusually so) which is why Spock (and likely T'Pring and Stonn) are caught by surprise. Genesis, showing Pon Farr in teen years, is likely the aberration. --71.233.244.224 07:47, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Vulcan makeup (orange pigmentation) Edit

I have noticed that around 1998 Vulcans have started to be portrayed differently. Actors now wear some makeup of yellowish-orange hue, like for example Solok (and the other non-speaking Vulcans of DS9: "Take Me Out to the Holosuite") as well as the replicant Vulcans of VOY: "In the Flesh" like Kinis. The actor who portrays Sturek (β) in the cutscenes of the video game Starfleet Academy (also from 1998), also wears this makeup.

It's possible that these two episodes mark the very first appearances of these orange-colored Vulcans, although I am not certain if they appeared already in immediately preceding episodes. What I am sure about is that no such makeup was used in previous seasons of DS9 and VOY, nor in other Star Trek incarnation. Notably, this make up is not used again in ENT, either.

This seems to be a change similar to that of the Romulans between TOS and TNG eras, where they wear ridges. Unlike in the case of Romulans however, this noticeable change is not addressed in any article. Therefore I plan to add this information into the article so that you can develop it accordingly, hoping it's not trivial.

For the record, I speculate that this new makeup is supposed perhaps to portray the greenish hue Vulcans are supposed to have (which however is never confirmed visually on-screen), but resulted to a yellow rather than green effect in practice. Tiki Mo'ai (talk) 12:44, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Warp tech. Edit

Is it stated or inferred why 1. Vulcans had such early warp technology (before the BORG!?) and 2. Why they didn't achieve warp (like) 4000 by the 20th century if they had exposure to warp technology for so long. If there is any logical answer to inquiry please give me one. The preceding unsigned comment was added by CaptainAlphaWiki22 (talk • contribs).

Removed Edit

I've removed a reference to the Vulcans as "culturally one of the most fascinating species in the Federation," as that's probably too emotive and non-encyclopedic for our purposes. --Defiant (talk) 12:31, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

I've also now removed a speculation which stated, "T'Pol probably just cited the scientific theory of her time." --Defiant (talk) 18:25, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

I have also removed the following, which have lacked citations for over 2 years:
In the wake of a Reman uprising, as well as improved relations between the Romulans and the Federation after the Dominion War, it was unclear what the status of this movement was.
This had some basis in fact, as the Vulcan brain was composed of many layers.
--Cleanse ( talk ) 08:21, October 10, 2017 (UTC)