ENT sleeve stripes Edit

I don't know why there's a mention of two separate styles of sleeve stripes for ENT vice admirals. If you look at Forrest's sleeves in "Broken Bow" it's pretty clear he's wearing the same stripe as Coto's admiral. --Kevin W.Talk to me 09:09, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

"Vice Admiral" or "Admiral" Edit

How many of these personnel listed as vice admiral, actually were mentioned as holding the rank? I know Alynna Nechayev was but I don't recall any of the others. By the 3rd or 4th season of TNG, it was common (and incorrect) to refer to any admiral that appeared as simply "Admiral," even though most of them appeared with three pips, making them vice admirals. But since there were so many, I think they would actually be Admirals, not Vice Admirals. There is nothing that suggests differently. William Ross, Kathryn Janeway and Paris were never referred to as "Vice Admiral," simply "Admiral." Simply having three pips isn't necessarily canon. 17:46, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

They definitely did mess up the admiral situation in TNG and beyond. The notion that most of the flag officers they encounter are either vice admirals or full admirals is pretty ridiculous. That said, it is common practice to refer to any type of admiral as "admiral" in conversation, rather than by their full rank name - the same situation exists with LCdr/Cdr. Then again, they refer to the three-pip rank as fleet admiral as well on two occasions, so at this point maybe they just stopped caring :P Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:05, March 16, 2015 (UTC)