Split Edit

I have a feeling we will need to break this page down further into Unnamed Humans (19th century), Unnamed Humans (20th century), Unnamed Humans (21st century)...and Unnamed Humans (24th century), before long. --Gvsualan 08:33, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yes, maybe... and I also suggest to place the images in one line so that there is not so much space between the rather short descriptions -- Kobi - (Talk) 13:01, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'd also suggest being a little wary about human looking characters shown in places other then Earth prior to the 2150's as trek is famous for human looking aliens. Jaf 13:04, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)Jaf
Fine, but add the The Preacher from the episode as well.--T smitts 04:44, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Unnamed Humans (from ref desk)Edit

I'm dealing with a sort of minor dilemma. Maybe you can help me. I've got screen caps of two of the unnamed "37's" from the episode of the same name. One is an Indian woman, while the other is an older, slightly dissheveled-looking man (most likely a laborer of some sort from either North America or Europe). Trouble is, I can't decide to stick them in with the list of humans from the 20th century (where they're from) or in with the list of humans from the 24th century (where we technically find them). What do you think?--T smitts 01:59, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I think either would be fine... personally, I'd go with 20th century humans as that's where I'd be more likely to look for these individuals, then create small stub headers for them under 24th century humans (under "The 37's," or something) and redirect to the info on the 20th century page. Vice versa would apply if you decide to put them on the 24th century page. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 02:04, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'd say the humans from the 20th century list, as that's when they're from. Would you consider Amelia Earhart to be from the 20th or the 24th century? The 20th. Just because they're historically unimportant doesn't mean they weren't still from that time. -Platypus Man 02:05, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Rationale for great great granddaddyEdit

McCoy refers to him as "One of my great great granddaddies, way back". --LauraCC (talk) 22:17, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

And the term isn't necessarily limited to someone four generations back. Could be longer. --LauraCC (talk) 22:22, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Isn't my note that McCoy's relative was not necessarily from the McCoy side of the family valid? It keeps someone from suggesting that he should be listed under "McCoy (ancestor)", for instance. --LauraCC (talk) 15:35, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Since such a suggestion would have to be made on this very talk page, I think that your comment just there will serve as well as any background note ;) -- Capricorn (talk) 22:36, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Other unknown era peoplesEdit

Are there any other races whose members are mentioned in an unknown time? --LauraCC (talk) 22:38, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Funny you should ask, because I've been thinking about that too. I've come upon similar problems to that lead you to create this page a few times before, but ended up following our page Distant past and use that term instead. Hence Unnamed Vulcans (unknown era), Unnamed humanoids (unknown era) and Unnamed non-humanoids (unknown era). We should probably use uniform terminology in all four articles, but I can see advantages for both terms. "Unknown era" may be more technically correct for some references, but the neat thing about the distant past article was that it could include things where a century was known, but it would be tedious creating numerous century articles with just one reference. That might come into play if you want to categorize things seen in the guardian of forever and time stream. -- Capricorn (talk) 23:01, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

With the McCoy example, you know that his relative probably wasn't from 300 BC, but since it's never stated, to guess at 19th or 20th when you're not to leave it ambiguous. If the era isn't said, unknown era. --LauraCC (talk) 19:03, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

As you know, that can change as MA users become more observant. The "Unnamed humanoids (Distant past)" page you speak of is a case in point of one entry (though 3 images). --LauraCC (talk) 20:54, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

Question regarding Lavelle's grandfatherEdit

Is my bg note wandering into speculation territory, or reasonable? If he doesn't belong here, I'm tempted to move the man to "Unnamed Canadians". --LauraCC (talk) 19:31, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

Too much speculation, and no. That page doesn't need to exist. -- sulfur (talk) 23:53, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

It's my justification for placing the character there, in case anyone questions it. --LauraCC (talk) 18:33, May 16, 2016 (UTC)


Lavelle tells Ben that "My grandfather was from Canada", indicating he was likely dead by 2370. Given the longer lifespan enjoyed by many Humans by that point in time, it is unknown whether he lived into the 23rd century or not.

Preserving here for anyone who wants to read it. --LauraCC (talk) 17:11, June 9, 2016 (UTC) And that should have been "24th century". --LauraCC (talk) 17:40, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Merge Edit

Just saw this on the Humans page: "Those Humans whose time period is unknown will remain listed on this page." Merge now? --LauraCC (talk) 17:40, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

No. -- sulfur (talk) 17:52, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

I didn't know someone had already made a provision for that elsewhere. --LauraCC (talk) 17:55, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Unnamed Humans (distant past) vs Unnamed Humans (unknown era)Edit

With the creation of this page we now have two pages, [[Unnamed Humans (distant past)]] and [[Unnamed Humans (unknown era)]], that are very similar and in fact have significant overlap as there's Humans that are both clearly ancient, and from an unknown era. These pages only really need to exist because we've taken to splitting Humans by whether they're 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th century and there's some need for an option "other". I think there's no good reason to split up these others, it only happened as a result of the disambiguation terms we've thought up. There ought to be a better solution.
(it's not an unique situation either, see Unnamed non-humanoids (unknown era) vs "Unnamed non-humanoids (distant past)") -- Capricorn (talk) 08:31, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Like what we did with Unnamed individuals (unknown era), yes. I put up the split tag. --LauraCC (talk) 19:18, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
Or just be patient and someone who has been actively working on this stuff will get to it. --Alan del Beccio (talk) 19:23, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
I am. :) --LauraCC (talk) 19:25, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

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