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Date of Cardassian wars involvement Edit

Any chance we can narrow the date on the Cardassian Wars info? Jaf 13:40, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Not from canon sources. All we have is Picard's one line about it. It implies the Stargazer was subsequently assigned somewhere away from the Cardassian front, but doesn't narrow down when the incident took place. A noncanon source, the novel The Art of the Impossible, puts it in 2343. --Emperorkalan 21:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Maxia Edit

  • This event was called the "Battle of Maxia" by the Ferengi.

Was it, really? Bok is hardly a representative sample among Ferengi. Was this name used by others? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk).

For what's it worth, Starfleet also called it "Battle of Maxia" on Picard's Grankite Order of Tactics certificate as seen in Picard's family album. -- 00:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Court martial offense? Edit

Isn't the loss of a ship a court-martiable offense, instead of the abandonment? I think Measure of a Man says that a court-martial is standard procedure when a ship is lost. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk).

Indeed it does. I will fix it. --OuroborosCobra talk 20:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Planetary debris Edit


This is my first comment on Memory-Alpha, so I apologize if I am doing something incorrectly.

Now, on to the pertinent question. The line about the Stargazer reacuing a planet from stellar debris with the help of three other ships seems to be entirely based upon the PC/Xbox 360 game "Star Trek Legacy", which is of course, not canon. Granted, the fact that the Stargazer at some time did save a planet is canon, but the details of the matter are unknown. All that is known from canon is in the episode "Tapestry", where Q notes that Picard took control of the bridge when the captain died.

Given that, it is my opinion that the other information should not be implied ot be canon, since it appears that the details come only from a video game.

Live long and prosper, --Rogue Vulcan 21:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)Rogue Vulcan

Greetings! I looked at the recent edits and found that that note was added by an anon back in December. Your claim seems valid, so I made the necessary adjustments. Thanks :) - Enzo Aquarius 21:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Made shortly after the release of Legacy, if I might note. Thanks again Rogue Vulcan. --OuroborosCobra talk 21:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Sidebar has multiple status/datestatus info Edit

Templates don't support this. If there are multiple status, then it should be in a different template with multiple template calls. Something like:


If we want to do something like that, elsewise it should be just the most recent status. --bp 11:37, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I thought the template page says it should only list the most recent status, seems like a quick wording fix there may be called for. - Archduk3 11:39, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
No, not another thing to make the template more complicated, please. Let's just remove the duplicate entry here! -- Cid Highwind 11:41, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, now that I think about it, USS Defiant (NCC-1764) has two status' though that is very much a special case. - Archduk3 11:46, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

... And its a hack of the parameters. Status has the datastatus of the first update included in it. --bp 00:43, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Bedford Falls? Edit

I think the "Bedford Falls" reference was a joke by Brent Spiner. If you review the Season 1 blooper reel, he is dressed in costume on the bridge as "data". As his torch passes over the dedication plaque, he mimics Jimmy Stewart "Gosh Mary, they built this thing in Bedford Falls!" I HIGHLY doubt for canon purposes it was built in "Bedford Falls". If someone can prove me wrong, please do it. 01:02, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

The Bedford Falls reference is not in the in-universe portion of the article, only in the Background section. That said, if the plaque appeared in canon, it would be valid in-universe information, any jokes nonwithstanding(the plaque was made before Spiner's joke anyway). 31dot 01:10, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
USS Stargazer dedication plaque suggests that it didn't contain such a reference. The Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion simply reports Spiner's joke without saying that it was based on something actually written on it. Unless there's a source that "Bedford Falls" appeared on the plaque it shouldn't be here.–Cleanse ( talk | contribs ) 02:24, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

23rd century/Federation Space SystemsEdit

Looking at the USS Stargazer dedication plaque page, the actual plaque used on screen did not seem to include this information. Or is there a legible photo of the plaque prop that differs from the information we have? --Pseudohuman (talk) 18:44, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

From USS Stargazer dedication plaque Edit

Layout Edit

The canonicity of the plaque's layot is somewhat questionable. There was a trading card series called "Reflections of the Future" in the 1990s and there was a 1:72 chance to have a gold foil dedication plaque in the package. One of those plaques was the Stargazer's with the layout as now depicted in the article. --User: 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

We see the actual plaque in the episode "The Battle", but not well enough to read fine detail. Would the actual prop used have said "Constitution class" or "Constellation class" - given Geordi's lip movements earlier in the episode? 22:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed Edit

The following information was listed on the dedication plaque of USS Stargazer.

USS Stargazer
Starfleet registry NCC-2893
San Francisco Fleet Yards, Earth
United Federation of Planets
"To bring light into the darkness."

So apparently this was based on some apocryphal trading card, and bg statements on what people recollected the plaque stated. and the actual artwork has been missing and there is no legible photo of it available to verify anything. Based on all that, I think its best not to claim we know what the plaque says. And just let the readers decide if the bg-statements seem legit enough to treat them as official. --Pseudohuman (talk) 15:33, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

I was the one who created the table. What I could read in the remastered version, I included in the table. What I couldn't read, and thus confirm, like the Federation Space Systems, I left out.Throwback (talk) 16:06, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Only thing legible in that remastered image is the name of the ship. I would say that it's better to have just the image and let readers interpret the illegible smudges of text in it. --Pseudohuman (talk) 20:15, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

I didn't use the image. At the time, I owned Season 1. I had a 42" flat screen tv, which meant the image was much larger than what is seen on this page. I was able to read the writing under the name. (I am surprised that you are jumping to assumptions, especially since you seem to me to be a person who is critical about other people making assumptions.) Do you own the Season 1 blu-rays? Can you do the same thing I did, which was to attempt to read the plaque?Throwback (talk) 20:35, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Please upload a better quality screencap so that everyone can confirm your interpretation. --Pseudohuman (talk) 21:31, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Why do people think that if you have a computer, that you have the software for creating screencaps? I would love to have that software; however, I don't have it and I don't know who to ask on this wikipedia to ask for a screencap. Do you know who we could ask for help?Throwback (talk) 22:25, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

everyone who has a computer should be able to take caps easily. vlc player for example is free and has screen cap in the video menu. or you can press the "print screen" button on the keyboard and in any image editing software photoshop, gimp, etc. open a new file and press ctrl+v (if you are using a PC). --Pseudohuman (talk) 22:49, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I don't have the blu-rays anymore as I had to sell them to get food money for our family. At the time, our family was one of those 1 in 6 who were food insecure. That's bureaucratic speech for "hungry". Do you know what they call a specialty crop? An apple. Why an apple? It isn't subsidized by the government. Anyway, I don't have the episode and there is no one here who we can ask for a better quality screencap, so I am willing to side with you on this one and move on.Throwback (talk) 23:04, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Merge Edit

I feel this article reads like a very, long background note. There is a background note on the USS Stargazer about this dedication plaque already and there is a picture of the plaque on the page, as well. So, I am asking for a merger.Throwback (talk) 04:35, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

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