Redirect Edit

Telencephalon redirects to cerebrum on Wikipedia, not vice versa. How do I "make it so"? --Archer4real (talk) 19:34, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

We're not wikipedia. It is important what was said/seen in the episodes/films. According to a quick script search there was one spoken reference to both terms. Tom (talk) 19:43, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

One ref for cerebrum "Descent, Part II"; two for telencephalon – see article. And there's been nothing I've found to indicate that we don't follow Wikipedia's rules, at least partly. So I'll ask again: how do we reverse C redirecting to T? -- Archer4real (talk) 09:59, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

When there are more references for telencephalon than for cerebrum, why should we change the redirect? Tom (talk) 15:19, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

A few very basic online searches seem to suggest (to me anyway) that while they're names for the same thing, cerebrum is used primarily. That’s why--Archer4real (talk) 19:27, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is no valid reason for a move for me. When there are more references for "T" the article should stay this way. Tom (talk) 20:52, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Disagree. Let's do it the hard way (as if it were ever going to be otherwise): Support renaming--Archer4real (talk) 10:04, November 20, 2015 (UTC).

Oppose. Tom (talk) 11:41, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

Hold everything it seems to be two-all: [1] and [2]. Does this make any difference?--Archer4real (talk) 13:53, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

Since this seems to be going in circles, here's my take: First off, note that telencephalon and cerebrum aren't 100% interchangeable terms: they refer to the same body parts but in different stages in devellopment (i.e. they are the same thing the way an embryo and a fetus are the same thing) Secondly, despite what was earlier claimed, there's actually only one reference for telencephalon, in that scene where aliens examine Riker in "first contact". Now put two and two together: you have doctors talking about Riker's telencephanol (something a human adult does not have anymore because it's turned into the cerebrum), and this is just before they fail to find his cardial organ and notice something odd about his terminus. I think the conclusion is pretty clear, they are two different organs, one existing in Humans and another in Malcorians. So, no redirects: there should be articles for both terms. -- Capricorn (talk) 15:25, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

You’re right – one ref for telencephalon two for cerebrum, ergo cerebrum wins so rename! I didn’t even read the existing article; I was thinking of diencephalon. Oppose separation; renew point re Wikipedia--Archer4real (talk) 16:31, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

As my goal is not to "call for a win" but listing information as it was presented in Star Trek I go with Capricorn for a split. That makes sense. Tom (talk) 16:35, November 21, 2015 (UTC)