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Ok, I've created this site, because I think all the performers who actually filmed scenes for a Star Trek production should be listed together. We also have a page for performers considered for Star Trek roles, but the different is, that these actors and actresses filmed scenes, which were cut from the aired versions.

I started this page when I got an e-mail answer from Carey Scott, who told me his Star Trek story.

I suggest, that all actors who were credited in the end credits of an episode or film should have their own article, because their name was listed on screen. All performers who received no credit but a proof exists for them, playing a role in Star Trek, should have a short article on this site. Also I created redirects for Carey Scott and Marilyn Rockafellow, their names are here on MA and if they were removed, a short time later another user will perhaps create an article for them. The redirects go to this page. The sources for the info about Tom Morga and Carey Scott is from them, via e-mail. I also suggest, that removed and uncredited performers should be mentioned in the background note of the episode/ film article and will work on this page later. There are many more.

Any suggestions? – Tom 04:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that a list of such individuals, such as this one, is enough. In my opinion performers should only have their own articles if they were seen or heard in canon in the finished episode. I believe as things stand now a cut scene is not canon for purposes of MA. Now, if an actor had a scene cut in one episode but did appear in others(such as Wil Wheaton whose lines were cut out of Nemesis) then that could be mentioned on their already existing page. I don't think we need seperate pages for people not actually seen in canon.--31dot 11:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
However, if they're listed on screen in credits, they should still get their own article. Whether hairdresser or actor. Otherwise, this article should suffice. -- Sulfur 12:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, 31dot, we have several articles for production staff members, who worked behind the scenes, were never shown or referred on screen, but are still a part of the Star Trek universe. And they should have their own article, of course. Its the same with some of these performers. They were payed for their work in Star Trek, but in some cases were removed. Please don't mix up the in-universe articles and real world articles. I don't want to create articles for the roles they played, I only want to mention the people who played these roles. And believe it or not, people will come to this wiki and search for an actor, for example Carey Scott, and cannot find him. Then they will create an article for him or discuss this again and again. It is a real world article like the one mentioned above, and you should notice, that in the article for the performers, who were approached for Star Trek roles, half of the people never made a screen test, casting call, or something like this. – Tom 13:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I did indeed get 'performers' confused with 'performance'. I'm not really sure why I did....but anyone credited should have an article. I will also say that I did not claim that people would not search for actor's names, and that certainly is a valid purpose for creating such articles.--31dot 23:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Moved from Talk:Diora Baird Edit

Being from America, I assume she's not related to Stuart Baird?--31dot 15:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe she is. --From Andoria with Love 14:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
There was more than one Orion in Star Trek?- JustPhil 14:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I think an Orion appeared in the Academy scenes at the end of the movie, but this was neither Rachel Nichols or Diora Baird. Baird's scenes were cut from the film. --From Andoria with Love 18:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Moved from Talk:Brad William Henke Edit

Yes, I realize the only online source stating Henke's involvement in Trek is IMDb, but a very reliable source (i.e. someone who worked on the film) has confirmed that Henke is indeed in the film. You'll have to take my word on that; if that's not enough, then feel free to bring this up for deletion. --From Andoria with Love 23:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do wonder. He says he's the abusive uncle but that turned into Greg Grundberg's stepfather role. Now that it's been released, have we decided anything? DhaliaUnsung 03:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

We have already confirmed he was in the film, but his scenes were cut. This means this page would be moved to this page, but we shouldn't do it now because if there is an extended cut of the film released on DVD and his scene is intact, we will have to move him back. Personally, I don't see the problem with having individual articles on actors who filmed scenes which were later cut. Their work may not be canon, but they still participated in a Star Trek production, which makes their inclusion on MA valid. For now, though, we should not bother the Star Trek (2009) actors whose scenes were deleted until after the DVDs are released. --From Andoria with Love 04:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

OH I see, thanks Shran, I completely misunderstood. Yes, we definitely should keep him in that case. Sorry for my misunderstanding. DhaliaUnsung 15:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Moved from Talk:Jenna Vaughn Edit

So Spock was born a Girl? Please, please tell me I can add that to his article :D -- Capricorn 14:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Only if you want to add that Porthos is really a girl or that Elizabeth was sometimes male. It happens. -- DhaliaUnsung 15:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually it's fairly common for newborns to be to not necessarily be the same gender as their characters - just off the top of my head, Michael Coreleone's "nephew" being baptized while Moe Greene etc. get whacked was Sofia Coppola, and in Episode III Luke and Leia were the same infant.--Ten-pint 23:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, where can I find the baby actor who played alternate james Kirk in Abrams' ST ??? I would like to know his name. thank you C-IMZADI-4 21:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

John Carter of DS9Edit

I don't know how we could confirm it, but I would say that the John Carter in question is this actor - [1] - DS9 Forever 22:34, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

From Talk:Kim Fitzgerald (actress) Edit

Images? Edit

Kim Fitzgerald Axanar discussion

Kim Fitzgerald

Yeah, so her pictures are up on the imdb, but I browsed the episode twice and couldn't find any characters that looked like her. Seeing that they credited her role, it would seem she had at least some sort of speaking role. So unless her role was cut or much less obvious than most credited roles. -- Alan 00:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The page says that this Kim Fitzgerald shouldn't be confused with the production associate. Well, what if she is that Kim Fitzgerald? It certainly wouldn't be the first time that IMDb screwed things up like that. It's also possible that those images aren't Fitzgerald, after all. Anyway, I can only assume that she's the one who plays the unfortunate crewman who gets blown up in "Chosen Realm" for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. -- From Andoria with Love 10:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I found an image of her from the new Axanar fan film this morning. This may help in her identification in the episode. -- sulfur (talk) 15:38, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
The Kim Fitzgerald who worked as production associate on three Trek series is a completely different person, and is a black woman. I've updated her article. The Kim Fitzgerald who "appeared" on Enterprise and is now on Axanar is Kimberley Ann Fitzgerald, today known as Kim Fitzgerald Starzyk following her marriage. I've went through the complete episode "Chosen Realm" and identified a whole bunch of the background, featured, and stunt actors. But there is no Kim Fitzgerald in this episode. However she remained in the end credits. So I've moved her entry to this page. She was credited so 'not considered' and this seems to be the best place. And btw, I've tried to contact her and asked her about her Enterprise adventure. Tom (talk) 03:04, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Backup babies Edit

So what were the names of Jenna Vaughn's unused backups? (for Performers considered for Star Trek roles) --LauraCC (talk) 21:48, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

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