Talk:Lore/archive

After he was disassembled, where was he kept? Data should have kept him for spare parts. --unsigned

The fate of Lore's disassembled parts is never discussed in canon, with the exception of the emotion chip. --OuroborosCobra 05:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It would have been cool for Nemesis to have incorporated this, for instance they couldn't find all of the parts of B-4 so they used some Lore parts. --Bp 00:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Data should have strongly opposed such actions, as Lore should be recognized as a life form and Federation citizen via the events in "The Measure of a Man" (one cannot simply cut up one's brother for spare parts, regardless of the crime he committed). Also, Lore should also be entitled to a trial, and should not be disassembled by Federation law, as this would equate to execution, and the Federation forbids the death penalty. --<unsigned>

Hmm, some good points raised there. My only counter would be to the "death penalty" side. Technically speaking, it would be possible to reassemble Lore, therefore he is not entirely "dead". For all we know, he was reassembled, and stood trial, and part of his punishment was removal of his emotion chip. We never see this, of course. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 04:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I was always thinking that Lore never was disassembled, just deactivated. --The Picard 20:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

And I just remembered that Data removed the chip at the end of "Descent, Part II". Well, the rest of my crappy theory could be true... --OuroborosCobra ^talk 05:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken (and after several years since watching the episodes that is quite possible) the emotion chip was actually Data's to begin with and Lore effectively stole it by tricking Soong into installing it in the wrong android. Therefore Data taking the chip wasn't any sort of theft. - Avron 07:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

True, Soong intended the chip for Data, and Lore tricked him. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 07:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking about all this last night and I think it's extremely unlikely that Lore's parts were destroyed as this would constitute an execution, and the death penalty does not exist in the Federation. 80.47.132.176 12:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• Are you sure about that? :P --From Andoria with Love 03:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It's belived that lore's body was taken to the daystrum institute for study.

I'm not sure Lore actually is a Federation citizen. He does not belong to a federation species after all. It was determined in "The Measure of a Man" that Data was sentient and thus able to be a citizen, but he is a member of Starfleet, whereas Lore is not. DaveS86 12:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Apparently the phaser shot at Lore may have caused a chain reaction which renders his posatronic net useless since while Lore is hit in the chest its the emotion chip in his head that is damaged!

Presumedly Soong's pasatronic net design has flaws which render it prone to breakdown and failure-with the exception of Data. After all Lal pasatronic net collapsed under the strain and shock of experiencing emotions-so prehaps even if Data didn't hit Lore with phaser blast Lore would probably have gone from his insane behavior to collapse and breakdown as Lal did. Thus Lore being reassembled presents no danger of his future "reanimation"-without a one of the type genius such as Soong to design a pasatronic net-Lore is just simply moveable parts

Emotion Chip

I nominate these sentences for removal from the tail-end of the article:

"However, the phaser blast that Data used to subdue Lore damaged the chip, rendering it useless to Data, though La Forge posited that he might one day be able to repair and install it. (TNG: "Descent, Part II") Somehow, in between the events of Lore's deactivation and the Amargosa observatory incident, the chip was repaired and Data was able to install it, although he initially had problems adapting to his new emotions. (Star Trek Generations)"

I think this information belongs under "emotion chip" or ""Descent, Part II"". The sentence in the article prior to this excerpt seems a much more appropriate closing to an article concerning Lore. Kylestrahm 06:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. – Hossrex 06:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I made the change. Suck My Wake 20:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Activation date?

This article gives Lore's activation date as September 9, 2335. However, I was wondering if there was actually any canon reference that places Lore's activation on that particular date. Does anybody know about this? Thanks! – Spot's Meow 23:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Behind the scenes?

No "behinds the scenes" information for his character? I was expecting a goldmine here... RobertM525 04:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

reason for Lore unstaibilty?

The only difference between the two androids is that Lore has a Type L phase discriminator and Data has a Type R phase discriminator. Therefore presumedly Lore L type to be used for a prototype emotions chip and Data R type for the revised emotion ship. Possibly Lore posatronic net for emotion was flawed to begin with and the emotion Chip only accelerated this disorder. Likewise Data has what Lore lacks-an ethical program