Unsubstantiated facts Edit

Please provide references here if you change a person's credits. Unless you can cite a reliable source (as per Wikipedia's RS rules), your changes can't be accepted as authoritative. -- Kojiro Vance | Talk 14:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

In general, IMDb isn't a reliable source either, but you are correct about needing a citation. I did some looking and prop maker appears to be a general term he's being credited with. IMDb doesn't know what he was credited as either as he was uncredited for the episode. He could have very well been called something completely different by those that matter on the production of "The Cage". Model maker also fits just fine. Also if you check this you'll see the UK version of IMDb lists him as a model maker. So which is right? This is exactly why IMDb isn't a reliable source either. — Morder (talk) 20:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I see "model", not "prop", on as well. Generally, I agree that we should have better citations for some of our facts - but, please note that we can't exactly call IMDb unreliable on one page while continuing to use it as a source on all other pages. It's either/or, and if you want to bring up the general unreliability of IMDb, please do so on a more central discussion page. This might also include the suggestion to officially adopt WP:RS because, while WP rules might be good common-sense guidelines to base ones behaviour on, they don't automatically apply as policy here. :) -- Cid Highwind 21:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. It's a necessary evil in my opinion. But I still say it's unreliable... :) — Morder (talk) 21:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)