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Is there any proof that this was a city, as opposed to some other type of location (a region or something) - I don't see any evidence for that, plus this city seems to grow crops. -- Capricorn (talk) 17:20, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

FWIW, the Star Trek Encyclopedia identifies Ilvia as a city, so that seemed to be the assumption of Trek staff. No reason a city can't grow crops, especially if it is a consolidated-city county covering a large area, or a Regional Municipality also covering a large area(Canada has those). 31dot (talk) 21:30, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
Or, reaching into ancient history, the city-states of Greece.Throwback (talk) 23:41, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

My concern isn't so much that it can't be a city, but that we simply might not know. What the encyclopedia says about the matter is interesting, but it's only good for background information. -- Capricorn (talk) 09:37, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what else you would call it- though Memory Beta calls it a settlement. 31dot (talk) 03:24, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

A location. It's easy enough to reflect vagueness. -- Capricorn (talk) 14:56, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

There is such a thing as being too vague and unnecessarily vague(people have common sense). Every point in the Galaxy is a "location". I think "settlement" (a location where people live, which is the case here) works better. 31dot (talk) 21:57, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

My point is, I'm not sure we know it's even a settlement. From what we can see all we have a name that is associated with some habitation and events. It could be like "Siberia" or "Transylvania"; not all named inhabited things qualify as settlements. I thought "location" or something noncommittal like that was standard practice in cases where all we have a name too. I hope I'm not flogging a dead horse here, but I'm genuinely surprised that this is so controversial. -- Capricorn (talk) 11:16, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

How about "inhabited area"? 31dot (talk) 19:25, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

That sounds nice. Or we could hedge our bets and say "settlement or inhabited area", unless that's too cumbersome. -- Capricorn (talk) 20:04, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

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