Talk:Unnamed hyper-evolved Humans

Isn't the picture in this article that of Janeway and Paris?--31dot 02:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I believe this is in reference to their offspring. Regardless, the title for this is ridiculous. --Alan 02:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. They weren't "played" by anyone, were they? I haven't seen this recently but I thought they were little things.--31dot 02:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

We've listed Cindy Sorenson and Susan Rossitto as playing those things for a long time, ThomasHL added them two years ago. At least one of them seems to have credit on IMDb as a puppeteer, so I'd guess the "little things" were puppets. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 03:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

That makes a great deal of sense.....thanks--31dot 03:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

This article is kind of mixing things up. Janeway and Paris as Transwarp Humans don't need an article on their own, as they are just that - Janeway and Paris further evolved. Cindy Sorenson and Susan Rossitto were inside the large costumes, playing evolved Janeway and Paris (as seen on the current screenshot). There were some new unnamed Transwarp humans seen in the episode, though: Janeway and Paris' offspring. They were portrayed by small puppets and CG animations, "played" by nobody. If we want to keep this article, a picture of just the babies is needed with the removal of the info about Sorenson and Rossitto, as they just played Janeway and Paris in salamander-like state. --Jörg 08:17, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Let's try to think of a better name....this one doesn't have a good ring to it.--31dot 12:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

It would be nice if the original contributor would get involved on these conversations as s/he has created a great many of these awkwardly named poorly written articles, then just lets us fix the mess with out as much as an acknowledgment, or an attempt at understanding our approach...

As for what these creatures are:

• TUVOK: "Are you saying Lieutenant Paris is evolving?"
• EMH: "That's my theory. The only difference between natural evolution and what happened to Mister Paris is that his changes took place over a 24-hour period. Somehow, traveling at infinite velocity accelerated the natural human evolutionary process by millions of years. It's possible that Mister Paris represents a future stage in human development, although I can't say it's very attractive."

Bearing in mind the quality of this episode, tacking these in with "Unnamed Humans (24th century)" would, unfortunately, not be inaccurate. --Alan 15:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the science here is as stupid as it gets - individual members of a species don't evolve, the species as a whole does. However, if we're just acepting this as-is, then Paris-lizard and Janeway-lizard should be mentioned on the existing articles, their children might get an entry on the "Unnamed humans" page as suggested, and the newly evolved "species" might be mentioned as a "possible evolutionary path" (which is in itself incredibly stupid) on Human. Last but not least, we also have Hyper-evolution already, which might lead to a "better" name for this page, should it continue to exist: Hyper-evolved Human. -- Cid Highwind 16:17, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I think calling these things humans is, as Alan said, unfortunately correct. Given this idea I don't think we need a seperate page for them.--31dot 17:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)