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Regarding the *note* on chiefs. This was still at the time when O'Brien was a lieutenant, give or take a few episodes, back when the meaning of a pip was somewhat limbo, when it came to enlisted personnel. Because Herbert's position, and the multiple uses of the term "chief", are we not assuming a bit much about him being an ensign when he was never called one per se? Again, this is still in the period of TNG when enlisted men, or supposedly enlisted men, were wearing pips. --Gvsualan 19:19, 1 Feb 2005 (CET)

He was referred to as "Ensign Herbert" in the script for "The Icarus Factor" -- Captain Mike K. Bartel 21:59, 1 Feb 2005 (CET)
As there is a history in trek to name small characters after famous science fiction writers I propose this character is named after Frank. Tyrant 05:16, 27 Feb 2005 (GMT)Tyrant

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