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T'Pol's, and maybe Seven of Nine's, clothing needs to be added. Also, MA isn't an image gallery, so each image should have a better description than just the year, and we most likely don't need two of Troi in the same outfit. Also, the wording needs to be reformatted to have an introduction. - Archduk3 13:10, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree about T'Pol and Seven, I'll work on that, along with the text expansions. As for "two of the same outfit," the two "green belt" costumes are slightly different - one has a rounded neckline, the other comes to a distinct point below the neck. Aatrek 13:31, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
All the more reason for descriptions of the clothing. I'm not sure if Seven counts though, based on how this is worded, since she wasn't in Starfleet. A brief mention of, and link to, the Captain's variants from TOS and TNG might be a good idea as well. - Archduk3 13:55, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
- I think we could still have Seven included; she became a member of Voyager's senior staff, attending staff meetings, etc.; after all, T'Pol was a "civilian" during the Xindi arc, and she was still second in command. Aatrek 14:23, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
I was think more season 4 for T'Pol, when she was a member of Starfleet. Covering Seven because she was at staff meetings means we need to cover Neelix as well. I'm not sure about Seven because we aren't sure if she was in charge of a department (stellar cartography) or was just taking the place of one that Voyager didn't have, like Kes acting a nurse because all the nurses were dead. - Archduk3 14:33, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, Neelix, Kes, and Seven were all civilians granted non-commissioned positions, I guess. T'Pol's fourth-season outfits were the same as her season three outfits, I believe, just with added shoulder strips and rank insignia. Aatrek 14:54, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about adding the 'captain's variant' stuff, as that's already covered in the regular duty uniform pages. Aside from that, can you think of anything that's missing? Aatrek 19:20, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Since this page is covering casual clothing worn instead of formal duty uniforms, and we don't have any canon information on where to draw the line, I think they're worth mentioning, in much the same way the uniform pages already mention these. Both are described as less formal uniform variants, and that is the definition of "casual duty attire". - Archduk3 19:50, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
- I hear you. I'll work on the two green wraparound tunics Kirk wore (and Picard's jackets), and I think McCoy's short-sleeve medical shirt probably deserves to be here too, since he usually wore the traditional long-sleeve uniform off ship and on the bridge. What do you think about the uniforms vests worn by Picard (in 'First Contact') and Sisko ('In the Pale Moonlight')? They seemed to be worn under the traditional jacket, just a layer of the existing uniform. Aatrek 00:47, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
McCoy's medical shirt might just be that, something that isn't casual, but has a medical purpose, because he only wore it in sickbay. The vests seem to be an optional part of the standard uniform, not a different, more casual version, so I'm leaning no on those. The only thing we need to add here for anything covered on the uniform pages in detail is a brief blurb, maybe with an image, so if the consensus is to add more, it shouldn't be too big a deal. - Archduk3 01:13, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Medical attire
Having thought about this some more, and seeing the recent additions, I now firmly believe these aren't casual attire, but closer to what we know as scrubs, and shouldn't be mentioned here. - Archduk3 17:29, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
- McCoy wears the white tunic over his green uniform turtleneck in 'Wrath of Khan', just like Scotty wears his engineering vest over his white uniform turtleneck. Unless it should be treated in the same vein as Beverly Crusher's blue lab coat, worn over her uniform... - Aatrek 17:36, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Are the short-sleeved shirts Kirk, Sulu, Uhura, and some extras wore during parts of the first movie considered as "casual duty attire"? If so, they shall be added as well. -- Ltarex, 0:38 (CET), 16 March, 2012
Sulu's wraparound IMO is more casual than the short-sleeved ones. - Archduk3 23:43, March 15, 2012 (UTC)