Qualifiers
Moved from Memory Alpha talk:Manual of Style
We need a common way of naming shuttle articles. Currently, we have a mix of Shuttlecraft X, X (shuttlecraft) and simply X. Most links favor the simple X, (such as Copernicus). I strongly agree with that option. This means that Galileo (shuttlecraft) should be moved to Galileo, unless there are other Galileos and we need a disamb page.
A related question is what to put in parenthesis. Do we have to differentiate between (shuttlepod) and (shuttlecraft) and possibly more types? Or do we use one term? -- Harry 14:18, 29 Dec 2004 (CET)
- I agree, qualifiers should generally only be used to disambiguate between articles with the otherwise same name. For searching purposes (among other reasons), article names such as "Shuttlecraft X" (or "Captain Y", ...) should be avoided at all costs... -- Cid Highwind 15:26, 2004 Dec 29 (CET)
Shuttles
I suggest we use links that are more like the ones used at wikipedia. Currently, I believe we have a link called 'Galileo'. I believe it should be 'Shuttlecraft Galileo'. In case of ambiguity, we might use "Enterprise shuttlecraft Galileo". In case of an unnamed shuttle, we could use 'Enterprise shuttlecraft 2'. The only slight problem with this system are the multiple Enterprises. We may need to resort to the informal 'Enterprise-A' form, or somehow include the registry. But any way, I think 'Galileo' is not a sufficient title. - Harry 18:46, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)
- Never mind that. I don't what I was thinking a few months ago. -- Harry 19:10, 31 Dec 2004 (CET)
Capitalization
Moved from Talk:Sol System
Just a minor nitpick, but something that doesn't sit right with me. Whis is it "Sol System", and not just "Sol system". I know it's pedantic, but the URLs are case-sensitive, so it does matter a bit. I don't think there is any reason for it to be "Sol System", or "Bajor System", or "Whatever System". The word 'system' is not part of the name, but a regular noun...
(It's basically the same as with the capitalized Centuries.. that doesn't make any sense either, but it's a bit too late to change all those :))
-- Harry 13:31, 16 Jan 2004 (PST)
- Guilty, your honor. ;)
- I guess I created most of these articles - I didn't put too much thought into the capitalization, but I think I simply see "Xyz System" as a proper name, not just the "Xyz" bit. However, that's just personal preference and I can see that this creates some problems while linking to these articles so the small case "system" should be used instead... -- Cid Highwind 14:21, 16 Jan 2004 (PST)
Titling articles question, re: "Sector"
Recently my "Mutara Sector" article was changed to "Mutara sector." Now I know that, say, "Ceti Alpha system" is the proper format, rather than "Ceti Alpha System," but does the same go for sectors? None of the other sectors on List of sectors have "sector" in lowercase.
Not complaining here or anything, just trying to discover the right format so I don't mess up again. Steve 23:01, 3 Jun 2004 (CEST)
- I think this is a question that has no definite answer yet. According to our Naming_conventions, lowercase should be used unless the title of an article (or specific part thereof) is a proper noun - which leaves us with another question: Is Mutara Sector a proper noun, or not? Perhaps this one is, but the Haradan sector is not? I guess we should just define one version to be the 'correct' one for our purposes (let's just vote here, perhaps?), and always create a redirect at the other spelling... -- Cid Highwind 23:36, 3 Jun 2004 (CEST)
- Lower-case for system makes sense to me, since it's usually just the star name with a "system" attached (except for exceptions like Bajor system), so just the star name's the proper noun. But in the case of a sector, the whole thing often feels like a proper noun, seemingly not named after anything: Rhomboid Dronegar Sector, anyone? I'd prefer sector names to be caps. Steve 20:12, 4 Jun 2004 (CEST)
- Even with sectors that are uniquely named like Rhomboid Dronegar sector, the Rhomboid Dronegar should be considered the proper noun, and sector is a descriptor. I support the standard for being "Blank sector" "Blank system" etc. --Captainmike 20:58, 4 Jun 2004 (CEST)
- I would use System myself, but that is just because I tend to use caps for almost all words. But I quite agree that system is not part of the noun and should therefor be typed lower-case. -- Redge 22:37, 6 Jun 2004 (CEST)
Proper nouns
There has recently been, and still is (me included), some confusion about what exactly a proper noun is. From Wikipedia:Noun:
- Proper nouns (also called proper names) are names and denote unique entities. The meaning of a proper noun, outside of what it references, is frequently arbitrary or irrelevant (for example, someone might be named Tiger Smith despite being neither a tiger nor a smith).
With that in mind, do we have to rethink the "inofficial" capitalization rules in use here? Regarding the above discussion, isn't "Sol Sector" the name of the unique entity consisting of a defined area of space surrounding the star Sol and should, as such, be capitalized? Or is "sector", as Mike put it, just a descriptor which should not be capitalized?
What about "Surplus Depot Z15", "Star Station India" and similar? Are those the names of these entities, or are "star station" and "surplus depot" descriptors added to the name part ("Z15", "India"), too? -- Cid Highwind 12:41, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)